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    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool
    another reason why the aussie selectors are a joke.....it takes them 3 bad games to drop lehmann, and an infinite number of games to drop hayden.

    Hayden was dropped from the team before Lehmann you goose. He has been retained in the squad because they can see that he is only one good innings away from a good score and is younger than Lehmann, at least he hasn't played immature innings like Lehmann.

    And I must agree that the Aussie selectors are a joke considering we have won the last 2 World Cups and made the final of the one before and have (IIRC) beaten every test team away and home (except India at home which was a draw).
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    The Australian selectors chop and change a LOT less than any other team.

    If Pakistan brought two bright sparks on a tour would anyone start a thread about it?

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    Hopes is a good choice, imo. His figures really dont do him justice.

    As for Hussey over Lehmann, well come on, we all knew it was coming. Hopefully Lehmann can still make the Test side (I certainly dont doubt he can), they arnt neally as concerned about age in the longer version as the shorter.
    Bit surprised that it was Hussey, but a really nice surprise, and he thoroughly deserves it! I guess they are seriously considering him for an Ashes tour, because his form in that country is nothing short of spectacular.

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    I'm a little surprised Cameron White wasn't picked ahead of Hussey as he has had a pretty good season and he could take Lehmann's bowling spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    What? D. Hussey isn't even IN the Victorian side at the moment,
    *D.Hussey is not in the Victorian PURA CUP side at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Wright
    Considering David Hussey can't even make the Victorian side
    *David Hussey can't make the Victorian PURA CUP side.

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    Lets face facts. Boof is the fattest cricketer on the scene at the moment and well past his prime. With Katich and even Hayden now warming the reserve seats, perhaps the time has come for Boof to retire! His time is up. Why is it so difficult to accept for some Sozzies! He was lucky he got to play the number of games he got to play. Look at Stuart Law. Despite being on par with the best in his day, guy never got to go as far as he should have!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh
    *David Hussey can't make the Victorian PURA CUP side.
    But Mike Hussey & James Hopes can make both sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mavric41
    I'm a little surprised Cameron White wasn't picked ahead of Hussey as he has had a pretty good season and he could take Lehmann's bowling spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Sam
    Lehman's already said he won't be around for the world cup.
    In which case he really should have retired from ODIs - it's a crying shame for a player as good as him to be dropped on 3 bad innings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    In which case he really should have retired from ODIs - it's a crying shame for a player as good as him to be dropped on 3 bad innings.
    I think it's a fallacy to suggest that he was dropped because of three innings alone. Firstly I think this is the end of his international career as a whole, he won't play a test or an ODI again, and Katich will get his test place (or potentially Watson). Secondly, even if he is only dropped from ODIs, his test form no doubt had a bearing on it.

    He may have played reasonably well over the same period of time on ODIs, btu the fact that he had a terrible tour of India and a poor home summer in the tests, AS WELL as a fairly average period in the ODIs at the end of the summer was what lead to him being dropped. There's no way on earth the selectors are going to say "well he's obviously out of form and unlikely to return to his best ever again in tests, but he's been decent on ODIs so lets ignore that for now". Obviously he had been on notice since the tour to India, and when he was left out of the Sydney test it was clear his last shot at redeeming himself as an international cricketer was in the VB series, where he did okay but not brilliantly.

    I agree that it's sad that he went out the way that he did, but the two forms of the game do not exist in seperate worlds, and general poor form is always going to be recognised as just that - general. Don't think for a second that Hayden being dropped from the VB series final was based solely on his performance in the proceeding ODIs, it too was related to his poor test performances in recent times.

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    There is little in the two game-forms that can reliably attest to something in the other - anyone who tries to form too many links is playing a very, very dangerous game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    The day Cameron White plays for Australia will be a sure sign the crown has slipped!
    I would have said so a while ago as well, but he is improving noticable...I can see him getting there actually.

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    i understand when s.waugh was playing he didn't like lehmann in the team, i can't see why lehmann out lasted m.bevan anyhow. bevan was a great batsmen and won many matches for australia even when they had dug the deepest hole for him to climb out of. why drop bevan when it surely should have been a player or two ahead of him in the order that put bevan into those worse case scenarios to begin with?

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