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    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool
    do you know what the difference between tests and ODIs is?
    when you do, then it would be worthwhile to have an argument with you.

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    and you'd explain his 2 50s against NZ(one being a match influencing innings too) despite his struggling in the test series how exactly? or for that matter his match winning 49* against pakistan in the recent VB series.
    no you'd much rather look at his 3 failures, 2 of which came when the team needed quick runs towards the end of the innings.
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    Lehmann deserves to be dropped on 1 innings.. That shot he played against Afridi on his 1st ball in the 1st Final to get caught behind with the side in deep trouble should have seen him dropped for game 2... He was a senior player who played like a rookie when his side needed him...

    Finally Mike Hussey gets a shot...

    Hopes is a great selection, i was one who wanted him in the World Cup side... he has always been good with the ball and now with his batting he is a great addition...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh
    Michael Hussey ahead of David Hussey??

    Well, whatever...
    What do you mean Whatever??

    Mike has been consistent over seasons, David has done some good things in 1 and a bit seasons.... Mike has done his time and now deserves a shot...


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    We all know that D Hussey and Hodge haven't been selected because they are Victorian.

    It is a disgrace that the selectors haven't taken any notice of what this Victorian team have done.

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    IDK why he should be dropped from ODIs while Hayden retains his place. But, having said that, I kinda saw this one coming, given his age and the proximity of the WC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blewy
    Lehmann deserves to be dropped on 1 innings.. That shot he played against Afridi on his 1st ball in the 1st Final to get caught behind with the side in deep trouble should have seen him dropped for game 2... He was a senior player who played like a rookie when his side needed him...

    Finally Mike Hussey gets a shot...

    Hopes is a great selection, i was one who wanted him in the World Cup side... he has always been good with the ball and now with his batting he is a great addition...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool
    do you know what the difference between tests and ODIs is?
    when you do, then it would be worthwhile to have an argument with you.
    As Lehmann was dropped from both forms of the game and Hayden has recently been out of form in both forms, I assumed you were discussing both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musha_13
    We all know that D Hussey and Hodge haven't been selected because they are Victorian.

    It is a disgrace that the selectors haven't taken any notice of what this Victorian team have done.
    What? D. Hussey isn't even IN the Victorian side at the moment, he was dropped due to lack of form. M. Hussey has been performing in FC cricket for years now. And as far as Hodge is concerned, well he has been in touring parties recently which indicates he is reasonably close to the Australian team, but he simply hasn't earned a place yet. There's no reason he should be picked ahead of M. Hussey or Katich for a test spot to replace Lehmann, and no reason he would be brought into the one day side either.

    As far as Victoria being discriminated against is concerned, that's as ridiculous as people who claim New South Wales recieves preferencial treatment now, in a time when there are 2 or 3 NSW players in the team and the bulk of the selectors are from other states as well. Victoria only has one player in the test side because only one Victorian player warrants a place, it's as simple as that.

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    On Lehmann....I think the fact he is sluggish around the field quite rightly worked against him and although he is a handy slow ODI bowler, I can see M Clarke taking over that mantle as a part time ODI spinner. Whilst Hayden isn't actually Ricky Ponting around the field,. hes not as much of a slug as Lehmann.

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    I must admit I am a bit biased against Lehmann. So I am not surprised. I have always been surprised by the huge support he enjoys amongst Australian supporters.

    But as I said at the outset, I am biased I suppose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh
    Michael Hussey ahead of David Hussey??

    Well, whatever...
    Considering David Hussey can't even make the Victorian side, I don't think he had a look in.

    I'm disapointed Jimmy Maher didn't get selected, he has been the best Australian domestic One Day player for the last 32 years and has had a pretty good time of it this season as well. However, I cannot smudge Hussey's selection though, he is a fine player and I'm sure he'll do well, IMO he is much better value than the useless Simon Katich.

    I think it is a great squad they have selected. James Hopes' record may not be that stunning, but this season he has shown he has the ability to be consistently good, it has just taken him a while to find his feet.
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    Lehman's already said he won't be around for the world cup. I think it is a very fair move to drop him from the ODI side. I think he may, however, still get on the test side for the NZ tour and possibly the Ashes tour, especially if Watson is struggling.
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    btw Hopes has averaged 36.37 in 9 innings and taken 11 wickets at 29.18 (e/r of 4.37) this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zinzan12
    On Lehmann....I think the fact he is sluggish around the field quite rightly worked against him and although he is a handy slow ODI bowler, I can see M Clarke taking over that mantle as a part time ODI spinner. Whilst Hayden isn't actually Ricky Ponting around the field,. hes not as much of a slug as Lehmann.
    Haha that never occurred to me; now Ponting will have to use Clarke from time to time.
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