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    Greatest batting line up of all-time

    I dont know if this has been a topic before (it probably has, but what the hell).

    I think somewhere else there has been talk of the current Aussie batting line up as being the greatest ever,and there is some strong statistical evidence to suggest that might be the case...however could the high averages etc be due to flat pitches,lack of quality bowling around the world etc.

    So what do you think...SA in the late 60's, WI's in their prime,India at some points in history, pakistan in the mid 80's,England in the 50's,Australia whenever??????
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    I'd say the Australian side of a couple of years ago in the South African series in 2002/03 up until the last Ashes series was the strongest I have ever seen by a long distance. Above all, the top six was so remarkably consistent that you could lose a fair few of them and still be confident that someone would stand up and play a big innings. And then after all of that, there's Gilchrist batting at 7...

    It's always difficult to compare accross eras of course, but I would suggest that batting lineup is at least the equal of any other in history. It lacked stars like the West Indies in the 80s had with Richards or The Invincibles had with Bradman, but in terms of consistent performance against the opposition they had available they are unmatched.

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    Australia side early 2000s.

    While i consider Hayden and Langer to be overrated, Ponting, Steve Waugh,Martyn and Gillchrist are great/worldclass with Mark Waugh being pretty decent too.
    Its the Gilly factor where i would rate them the best ever.

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    How about this for a top 5 though:

    CC Hunte
    RB Kanhai
    GS Sobers
    ED Weekes
    CL Walcott when WI played Pakistan in 57 and Sobers scored 365

    England during the mid 50's:
    L Hutton
    WJ Edrich
    PBH May
    MC Cowdrey
    DCS Compton
    TE Bailey


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    1. GA Kirsten
    2. HH Gibbs
    3. DJ Cullinan
    4. JH Kallis
    5. WJ Cronjé
    6. JN Rhodes
    7. MV Boucher
    8. B McMillan
    9. SM Pollock
    10. P Symcox
    11. A Rabbit

    Certainly not advocating this as the best lineup of all time, but it shapes up pretty well.. Not sure if all nine played together at the same time.. Maybe if you replace Gibbs with Hudson they might have done
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    Sure, there's some other great ones as well. The Invincibles for example put together some truly awesome batting line-ups, which even without Bradman are great.

    For example:
    SG Barnes
    AR Morris
    DG Bradman
    AL Hassett
    RN Harvey
    KR Miller
    SJE Loxton


    Another great one is the West Indies of the mid-80s.
    CG Greenidge
    DL Haynes
    RB Richardson
    IVA Richards
    CH Lloyd
    HA Gomes
    PJL Dujon


    Still, I think the recent Australian side is the strongest by a small margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Langeveldt
    1. GA Kirsten
    2. HH Gibbs
    3. DJ Cullinan
    4. JH Kallis
    5. WJ Cronjé
    6. JN Rhodes
    7. MV Boucher
    8. B McMillan
    9. SM Pollock
    10. P Symcox
    11. A Rabbit

    Certainly not advocating this as the best lineup of all time, but it shapes up pretty well.. Not sure if all nine played together at the same time.. Maybe if you replace Gibbs with Hudson they might have done
    great depth in a lot of ways...but I dont know whether a player who scored only 1 test ton in his last 71 innings is really good enough coming in at 5,and with Rhodes at 6, who was at best a useful middle order batsman..and with McMillan in there, I would be guessing you are talking mid to late 90s..at which point Gibbs and Kallis were nowhere near establishing themselves as very good batsmen

    Great top 4 though if you only consider the players at their peaks

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    I agree with CC, its Gilchrist which does it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swervy
    great depth in a lot of ways...but I dont know whether a player who scored only 1 test ton in his last 71 innings is really good enough coming in at 5,and with Rhodes at 6, who was at best a useful middle order batsman..and with McMillan in there, I would be guessing you are talking mid to late 90s..at which point Gibbs and Kallis were nowhere near establishing themselves as very good batsmen

    Great top 4 though if you only consider the players at their peaks
    Agreed, just testing.. Then the post 2002 Aussie order gets my vote

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    I am really surprised that every one so far has said the recent Aussie batting line up.....

    Where is Richard to spice things up

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    Sure, there's some other great ones as well. The Invincibles for example put together some truly awesome batting line-ups, which even without Bradman are great.

    For example:
    SG Barnes
    AR Morris
    DG Bradman
    AL Hassett
    RN Harvey
    KR Miller
    SJE Loxton
    Almost a "who's who" of Oz cricket there!

    I think what also helped to make the '48 Aussies such an awesome batting line up was their depth. To the guys above you can also add Lindwall (two test tons, average of tad over 21) & Doug Ring (average of v nearly 22.5).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swervy
    I am really surprised that every one so far has said the recent Aussie batting line up.....

    Where is Richard to spice things up
    Agreeing has never been a problem..

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    Not sure they all ever played together but these could have been phenomenal batting lineups.

    JB Hobbs
    H Sutcliffe
    WR Hammond
    EH Hendren
    CP Mead
    DR Jardine
    LG Ames +
    MW Tate
    H Larwood
    AP Freeman
    CWL Parker

    Or

    AR Morris
    SG Barnes
    DG Bradman
    AL Hassett
    RN Harvey
    WA Brown
    KR Miller
    RR Lindwall
    D Tallon +
    WA Johnston
    ERH Toshack

    Or

    L Hutton
    MC Cowdrey
    PBH May
    DCS Compton
    KF Barrington
    TW Graveney
    TG Evans +
    JH Wardle
    JS Laker
    FH Tyson
    JB Statham

    Or

    BA Richards
    EJ Barlow
    A Bacher
    RG Pollock
    BL Irvine
    WS Farrer
    DT Lindsay +
    MJ Proctor
    TL Goddard
    HR Lance
    PM Pollock

    Or

    CG Greenidge
    DL Haynes
    RB Richardson
    IVA Richards
    CH Lloyd
    HA Gomes
    PJL Dujon +
    MD Marshall
    AME Roberts
    MA Holding
    J Garner

    Or

    JL Langer
    ML Hayden
    RT Ponting
    ME Waugh
    SR Waugh
    DR Martyn
    AC Gilchrist +
    SK Warne
    JN Gillespie
    SCG MacGill
    GD McGrath
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    so which is best out of those Mr Zebra

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    Difficult to say - England 1928/29 and Australia 2000 all have top class batsmen down to 7, although you might argue Australia 1948 hold the edge with the Bradman factor. Alternatively South Africa 1969/70 make a good case with only one tailender in the side. Statistically England 1950s and West Indies 1980s are not the best, but the standard of bowling was arguably very high in those times.

    Take your pick.

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