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**Official** India v Pakistan

cricket player

International Debutant
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Shahid_afridi said:
whenever i think of sami i think of him bowling sourav ganguly around the legs with a great cutter(i think it was in the champions trophy last year)... :p
he can also bat.he made a good 49 against india in a test match last year.
Dont forget that mcgrath made a 50 againts new zealand,Even though sami is much more younger then mcgrath but mcgrath beat him by one run hehe
 

Vikas Bhatt

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
shoot_me said:
Good old Vangirappu's gotta lot of work to do. How many centuries does it take to make up for a season average of 19?
Why just Laxman? Even Dravid, Ganguly and Sachin have had an average last season by their usual yardsticks. Someone please don't tell me, that Sachin averages healthily last season, because he was the most inconsistant of all India bats. If you remove those 2 big 200s and 194 [all 3 innings not out], his consistancy was absolute pits with 17 single digit scores in 26 innings!!! Remove those 3 N.O. big hundreds and his average would be well below Laxman's! I don't think the last 3 tests in Pakistan gave Laxman enough scoring opportunities. In the first test, Sehwag's 309 and Sachin's 194*, ensured India of a very big lead. By the time Laxman came in he had to play fast till declaration and not much one can do in such circumstances except hit out and get out. In the second test everyone except Yuvraj and Sehwag failed and after being in sublime form for 2 years running, Laxman was bound for his turn at failure. In the last test he scored a healthy 77 at number 5, in the only innings India played. Laxman looked like getting back into form in his last Australian innings, where everybody except he and Sachin failed on a highly treacherous Wankhede track!

In the 1999 home series, He was a forced opener. Not every middle order bat automatically becomes successful as an opener as miraculously as Sehwag did. Sehwag is the only example in world cricket of having been so consistantly successful after changing from a number 6 bat to number 1 bat. I don't think that the 6 tests Laxman played against Pakistan are a fair indication to judge him against them.

Laxman in my mind is the one Indian player who plays pace bowling with the most confidence, even better than Dravid. I think that with a point to prove, his place in danger and with a successful domestic season, he will be very handy against Pakistan!
 
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Vikas Bhatt

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
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cricket player said:
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Dont forget that mcgrath made a 50 againts new zealand,Even though sami is much more younger then mcgrath but mcgrath beat him by one run hehe
Big deal! Even Venkatesh Prasad made a great aggressive 45 on a swinging pitch once.

:D :blink:
 

adharcric

International Coach
Anyone know when India will be announcing the test squad? This is what I want/expect:
V. Sehwag
G. Gambhir
R. Dravid
S. Tendulkar
V. Laxman
S. Ganguly
M. Kaif
Y. Singh
D. Karthik
I. Pathan
Z. Khan
A. Nehra
A. Kumble
H. Singh
R. Powar / L. Balaji
 
imranrabb said:
It looks like 3-0 to india after seeing the squad but what can we do without shabbir,gul,shoiab akhtar and saqlain

Agreed, Pakistan certainly don't have the talent, the skill and the experiance to get 20 Indian wkts in a test match, on the other hand India has the capability to bowl out the fragile Pak batting lineup twice in all three matches.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
vandemataram said:
Agreed, Pakistan certainly don't have the talent, the skill and the experiance to get 20 Indian wkts in a test match, on the other hand India has the capability to bowl out the fragile Pak batting lineup twice in all three matches.
Rana, Daniesh, Sami plus two all rounders (most likely) are good enough to bowl the Indian out twice on current form. It will be allot closer then u might think, else so India win probably still win 2-1.
 
chaminda_00 said:
Rana, Daniesh, Sami plus two all rounders (most likely) are good enough to bowl the Indian out twice on current form. It will be allot closer then u might think, else so India win probably still win 2-1.

If you happen to have been joking then its fine, otherwise i can't understand how can one expect such a lowly rated inexperianced attack to trouble the best batting lineup in the world???

-- None of the mentioned bowlers have taken 100 test wkts!

-- Sami is crap, just have a look at his test record, his record against India, or go though the vidoes of his matches.Such a losses cannon is only going to be hammered in India!

-- Rana is a bowler of limited talent, he's only in the side coz Pak lack quality pacers.To expect Rana to perform like a match winner in India is asking for the moon.

--- The 2 allrounder you mentioned ( Razzak and Afridi) doesn't have the ability to deliver with the ball in test matches.


__ Danish is indeed a good prospect, the only bowler in the present Pakistani lineup that can be said to be anywehere near international class. Unfortunately for Pakistan he would be against India , against whome even Warne has failed to do anything worthwhile.So what can we expect from Danish??


This bowling attack is impotent , mark my word, India is going to win this series 3-0 with ease.
 

ReallyCrazy

Banned
Is Balaji in the Indian squad??

On another note, I agree w/ Bharani. The Ahmedabad test should have gone to Chennai. Chennai deserves to host more test matches, both coz the fans are so well behaved and also because every match in Chennai is soooo engrossing.
 

Choora

State Regular
PAKMAN said:
I DONT THINK NAZIR IS IN THE AQUAD ,now that is bad news
That's a terrible news for Pakistan, i'm not sure what Woolmer is upto (as i read that Woolmer gave the list of 16 players he wanted for Indian tour to PCB). This Squad seems very unbalanced and inexperiancefor such a hard tour.

Just 4 specialist bowlers have been picked in Danish , Arshad,Sami and Khaleel (Afridi, Razzak and Naveed are allrounders ) this to me is very surprising. What is going to happen if one pacers goes down to Injury???

The omission of Shahid Nazeer is shocking to me, he should have been in the team for experiance and on being the in-form bowler.Why was Khaleel preferred over Nazir is something i can't get? Also why have they selected Shoaib Malik for test matches when the guy isn't allowed to bowl? surely he won't be preffered over Asim Kamal and Younis Khan for batting, the guy would only going to be wasted in this tour.


The only good thing about this Pak squad is the appointment of Younis Khan as vice -captain.This was something Inzi resisted till the end as he wanted his pal youhanna to continue to be the vice captain.
 

Choora

State Regular
chaminda_00 said:
Rana, Daniesh, Sami plus two all rounders (most likely) are good enough to bowl the Indian out twice on current form.
So you think they would go for 2 allrounders? This would mean Razzak and Afridi in the test squad with no place for Asim Kamal!! Asim Kamal is a batsman that should be given a long run in Pak side, he has done very well at number sixth slot and if he's dropped again for some bits and pieces player then Pak think tank must be crazy.

I think the team should be like this,

Hameed
Butt
Younis
Inzi
Youhana
Asim
Akmal
Naveed
Sami
Arshad
Danish

This bowling attack looks very thin and the problem for Pakistan will be absence of a 5th bowler, as such there will be temptation to go into the match with a 5th bowler in Razzak in place of asim kamal, which i think won't work for Pakistan
 

adharcric

International Coach
youhana is playing, isn't he? how come cricinfo's squad (and some others i think) don't include him ...
 

Choora

State Regular
adharcric said:
youhana is playing, isn't he? how come cricinfo's squad (and some others i think) don't include him ...
Well he's certainly in the squad, he may not be the vice captain anymore though.He didn't do justice with captaincy when he was given the chance.
 

adharcric

International Coach
yea it is just a mistake by cricinfo in one place ... so from the pak standpoint, i would have
S.Butt, Y.Hameed, Y.Khan, Inzamam-ul-Haq, Y.Youhana, A.Kamal/S.Afridi, A.Razzaq,
K.Akmal, M.Sami, Naved-ul-Hasan, D.Kaneria
 

Choora

State Regular
adharcric said:
yea it is just a mistake by cricinfo in one place ... so from the pak standpoint, i would have
S.Butt, Y.Hameed, Y.Khan, Inzamam-ul-Haq, Y.Youhana, A.Kamal/S.Afridi, A.Razzaq,
K.Akmal, M.Sami, Naved-ul-Hasan, D.Kaneria

Well , i would certainly prefer Asim over Afridi in a test squad any day.

Also i'm not sure if Razzak should be preffered over specialist off-spinner Arshad Khan. In the 1st test i would like to have Arshad in the Pak team, if he flops then Razzak or Afridi can replace him.
 

dudeurfriend

School Boy/Girl Captain
Well i would have
S.Butt,K.Akmal , Y.Khan, Inzamam-ul-Haq, Y.Youhana, A.Kamal,S.Afridi, A.Razzaq,
K.Akmal, M.Sami, Naved-ul-Hasan, D.Kaneria
 

Choora

State Regular
dudeurfriend said:
Well i would have
S.Butt,K.Akmal , Y.Khan, Inzamam-ul-Haq, Y.Youhana, A.Kamal,S.Afridi, A.Razzaq,
K.Akmal, M.Sami, Naved-ul-Hasan, D.Kaneria
Has Kamran Akmal been cloned?? As there appears to be 2 of them in ur team

Kamran certainly is NOT a test opener, having him openeing for Pak will be a disaster.
 

Choora

State Regular
I think we might see Afridi opening for Pakistan in the test series. IF the other Pakistan openers don't perform well then they might give Afridi a chance to open as this would also give them a chance to utilize Afridi as the fifth bowler
 

adharcric

International Coach
Choora said:
Well , i would certainly prefer Asim over Afridi in a test squad any day.

Also i'm not sure if Razzak should be preffered over specialist off-spinner Arshad Khan. In the 1st test i would like to have Arshad in the Pak team, if he flops then Razzak or Afridi can replace him.
Asim Kamal is a pretty good batsman, but I don't know if 4 bowlers will be enough for Pakistan (Kaneria, Naved, Sami, Razzaq), especially considering only one of them is a spinner (spinners tend to be able to bowl more overs then seamers, i think). So if Arshad Khan is preferred to Razzaq, I would go with Asim Kamal. Basically, Kamal/Arshad or Afridi/Razzaq.
 

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