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"Gavaskar leads World XI selectors" ... who would you select?

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
howardj said:
First time I've read it, that's all. Bit rough on Warne. You must be a saint.
Well i think warnie a few other things to, i don't think it is too harsh, anyone who takes drugs to improve his game then blames his mum, deserves no respect as person. His is f***ing tool, but he is a good bowler
 

Sehwag309

Banned
I havent read the whole thread Marc. but I assume u talking ShaMe Warne?

Actually, if any Asian cricketer was caught with Drugs (in pills whatever Mama gave) would have been judged "took to improve game"

YES, he is a Damn CHEAT....and a dirty person too, from what it seems
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
So no doubt you will give us conclusive proof that he took performance-enhancing drugs then.
 

Sehwag309

Banned
I wouldnt take it to court ( Down Under), but this bloke broke the law.

If thats the case than all athletes would say they took their whatever drugs for pain etc

Point is, if any Asian cricketer was involved, it would have been congressional hearing..just coz he is from XYZ, he isnt mentioned much besides being an expert on giving weather reports (ya right)

This guy has confessed of accepting money for giving weather reports-or pitch conditions? well he said so! who knows what info he has given

How can u trust someone like that, ya right ACB dealt with it, dealt with what? a mistake! ya sure, NOPE, he is a cheat...and even if he takes mommas pills..doubts will raise
 
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howardj

International Coach
chaminda_00 said:
Well i think warnie a few other things to, i don't think it is too harsh, anyone who takes drugs to improve his game then blames his mum, deserves no respect as person. His is f***ing tool, but he is a good bowler
Grow up mate. There was an inquiry, conducted by people independent of Cricket Australia. It found zero evidence that he took drugs to improve his game.
 

garage flower

State Vice-Captain
My World Test XI

Strauss
Sehwag
Dravid
Lara
Kallis
Sangakarra
Flintoff
Pollock
Kumble (given Murali's injury concerns)
Pathan
Harmison
 

C_C

International Captain
So no doubt you will give us conclusive proof that he took performance-enhancing drugs then.
ANYONE who takes a masking agent is implicitly guilty of taking performance enhancing drugs.
That is standard IAAF and IOC procedures.

Legally, you do not have to prove that a person has taken performance enhancing drugs to accuse them of doping. You have to be abole to prove that they took any of the banned drugs- performance enhancing or masking agent.

Shane Warne is guilty of taking banned drugs, ie, he is a drug cheat.
Shane Warne is guilty.
Simple as that.

He tested positive for hydrochlorothiazide and amiloride, drugs which are used for several things but primarily for weight loss by athletes.
Since weight loss leads to a direct increase in stamina, it *IS* a performance enhancing drug.
 

Hodgo7

School Boy/Girl Captain
I would have to go with Garage Flowers test team. Not sure if i would make any changes. Great variety in the bowling attack as well. I think the Aussies would get them though...
 

C_C

International Captain
Look.
We dunno who will be fit and who wont be(unless Murali is definately ruled out) so as such we have to pick the best team we can come up with.
As such, Tendulkar is an automatic, poor form or great form.
Kallis/Flintoff both cannot play...either one....
As for Harmison....i can only laugh on why Harmison would get picked over Akhtar.
So far Akhtar has shown up against OZ...harmison is a minnow basher.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Sehwag309 said:
I wouldnt take it to court ( Down Under), but this bloke broke the law.
Well if you wouldn't take it to court, it's because you have no proof, so why do you say it on here?
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
C_C said:
As for Harmison....i can only laugh on why Harmison would get picked over Akhtar.
So far Akhtar has shown up against OZ...harmison is a minnow basher.
You're gonna look a right idiot after the Ashes. Akhtar who gives you about 10 overs in a day out of 90 interspersed with his Laurel & Hardy school of fielding displays.
 

garage flower

State Vice-Captain
C_C said:
Look.
We dunno who will be fit and who wont be(unless Murali is definately ruled out) so as such we have to pick the best team we can come up with.
Good plan.

As such, Tendulkar is an automatic, poor form or great form.
Has been injured and/or out of form for a while. Far from an automatic pick given the hot competition.

Kallis/Flintoff both cannot play...either one....
Don't see your logic. Kallis is picked as a specialist bat, who might send down the odd over. Flintoff is in as a bowling all-rounder.

As for Harmison....i can only laugh on why Harmison would get picked over Akhtar.
So far Akhtar has shown up against OZ...harmison is a minnow basher.
Harmison would be a bit of gamble, but Shoaib is completely unreliable.
 

C_C

International Captain
Has been injured and/or out of form for a while. Far from an automatic pick given the hot competition.
Form is temporary. Class is permanent.
No World XI can start without Lara,Tendulkar,Dravid and Murali. Regardless of what form they are in.

The reason i say we cannot accomodate both Kallis and Flintoff is because it compromises the batting with little gain in the bowling department.
I would personally go with Kallis is because Flintoff is a so-so batsman and a so-so bowler.....he may be in good form but still no patch on Akhtar,Pollock,murali or Kumble.

And Shoaib may be unreliable but Harmison has done diddly squat against AUS and has done well only against wonky batting lineups.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Well Harmison will be in the squad, and based on his performances this Ashes, we'll see if he makes the side. If he does rip through the Aussies he'd easily be in the team simply for intimidation purposes since the Super Series is so soon after teh Ashes. However if he has another SA tour (despite the dropped catches) he may struggle getting in.
 

garage flower

State Vice-Captain
C_C said:
Form is temporary. Class is permanent.
No World XI can start without Lara,Tendulkar,Dravid and Murali. Regardless of what form they are in.

The reason i say we cannot accomodate both Kallis and Flintoff is because it compromises the batting with little gain in the bowling department.
I would personally go with Kallis is because Flintoff is a so-so batsman and a so-so bowler.....he may be in good form but still no patch on Akhtar,Pollock,murali or Kumble.

And Shoaib may be unreliable but Harmison has done diddly squat against AUS and has done well only against wonky batting lineups.
In my view, when you're only looking at 3 or 4 middle order slots in a World XI, you need to be picking class players who are in form. Tendulkar doesn't qualify.

Flintoff's bowling over the last year is good enough to get him the nod for me. His potentially destructive batting is obviously a handy bonus.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
C_C said:
Form is temporary. Class is permanent.
No World XI can start without Lara,Tendulkar,Dravid and Murali. Regardless of what form they are in.
I think it can - this side should be selected on achievments of the surrent rather than past glories.
 

Neil Pickup

Cricket Web Moderator
I wouldn't even be sure his elbow will have recovered by then - it only seems to work against Bangladesh at the moment...

Strauss
Sehwag
Dravid *
Lara
Kallis
Sangakkara +
Flintoff
Pollock
Kumble
Muralitharan
Akhtar

12: Collingwood
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
C_C said:
Form is temporary. Class is permanent.
No World XI can start without Lara,Tendulkar,Dravid and Murali. Regardless of what form they are in.

The reason i say we cannot accomodate both Kallis and Flintoff is because it compromises the batting with little gain in the bowling department.
I would personally go with Kallis is because Flintoff is a so-so batsman and a so-so bowler.....he may be in good form but still no patch on Akhtar,Pollock,murali or Kumble.

And Shoaib may be unreliable but Harmison has done diddly squat against AUS and has done well only against wonky batting lineups.
You obviously haven't seen Flintoff bowl then, while his batting goes from bone-headed to brilliant and back again, his bowling is consistent and as valuable as Pollock & Akhtar at the moment, especially in ODIs.
 

Zinzan

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C_C said:
Form is temporary. Class is permanent.
No World XI can start without Lara,Tendulkar,Dravid and Murali. Regardless of what form they are in.

The reason i say we cannot accomodate both Kallis and Flintoff is because it compromises the batting with little gain in the bowling department.
I would personally go with Kallis is because Flintoff is a so-so batsman and a so-so bowler.....he may be in good form but still no patch on Akhtar,Pollock,murali or Kumble.

And Shoaib may be unreliable but Harmison has done diddly squat against AUS and has done well only against wonky batting lineups.
Both Flintoff and Cairns are a must for me in the oneday team

But would definately take Kallis over Flintoff in the test side
 

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