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    Hypothetical Question

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    Surpose there was a batsmen as good or perhaps even better than Bradman. He was a certainty to average around 100 in test matches just a Bradman did.

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    He couldnt field at all. He was the worst fieldman you could possibly imagine. Ten, twenty times worse than the the worst you can think of. He's big, fat and slow. Has trouble bending down to field etc. Appauling catching, will drop absolute sitters and no amount of practise can make him better.

    Now my question is, in this day and age where fielding is so important and the standards of fielding are so high, would this brilliant batsmen be selected to play test cricket?
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    Yes, of course. Just put him at fine leg.
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    I don't think he would be selected, but then again. You could put him down at fine leg or something and train him harder.
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    But imagine all the boundaries he would let by because of his total lack of speed etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camel56
    He's big, fat and slow. Has trouble bending down to field etc.
    Can't see someone like that averaging 100 because their footwork would be terrible and their stroke production would be limited.


    Quote Originally Posted by Camel56
    Appauling catching, will drop absolute sitters
    If you cannot catch then your eye sight and co-ordination would probably be crap so you would struggle to hit the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camel56
    But imagine all the boundaries he would let by because of his total lack of speed etc.
    Well if he averaged 100 then he would need to concede at least 60 runs per innings to not be worth his place in the side (if you average 40 most people recognise you as an instrumental member of the side), and I can't see anyone conceding that many runs at fine leg unless the wicket-keeper sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a massive zebra
    Can't see someone like that averaging 100 because their footwork would be terrible and their stroke production would be limited.




    If you cannot catch then your eye sight and co-ordination would probably be crap so you would struggle to hit the ball.

    Yes im aware of these things thats why it was a hypothetical question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a massive zebra
    Well if he averaged 100 then he would need to concede at least 60 runs per innings to not be worth his place in the side (if you average 40 most people recognise you as an instrumental member of the side), and I can't see anyone conceding that many runs at fine leg unless the wicket-keeper sucks.
    Why couldnt he? There are plenty of balls played off the batsmens hip to fine leg. Easy for him to conceed that many if he is as bad as ive said he is.
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    Yes im aware of these things thats why it was a hypothetical question.
    A hypothetical question of this nature also has to have an element of plausibility to it or it makes no sense.

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    It is perfectly plausible. I have played against grossly obese players who were very very good batsmen. They would usually field in the slips but werent very good when it came to taking catches.
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    Yes, he would get picked, and I would play him at mid-on or mid-off, as that is a rather easy position where your main job is to give the ball to the bowler.
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    It is perfectly plausible. I have played against grossly obese players who were very very good batsmen. They would usually field in the slips but werent very good when it came to taking catches.
    A massive zebra wasn't disputing whether overweight people can play the game at all but whether they would have the physical ability to be picked in higher level teams. Bit different.

    As for my take on the matter, a batsman would have to have a considerable level of batting ability to offset the lack of fielding ability. Unless they were the very incarnation of Bradman, I'd say it would be better to pick a slightly lesser batsman who was a far better fielder.

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    I don't think there's anything wrong with Camel's hypothetical. It's the nature of hypotheticals that you take the premise offered, and answer the question asked. In any hypothetical, you could say "but then this guy wouldn't have..." or "I've never seen a player offer those two choices.". It's beside the point. The tradeoff is between the terrible fielding and the Bradmanesque batting.

    Myself, I'd play him, and as some others have proposed, try and hide him in the field where he'll do the least damage. Fine leg probably would be best, as long as your bowlers are disciplined enough to remember he's there.
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    Fielding is far too important these days IMO. After watching a lot of archives over the weekend due to rain it is amazing to see the increase in overall pace of the game within just the last 10-20 years!!!

    you're better off working closely with other batters on bringing up their abilities...anyway we do OK (i emphasise OK) considering we dont have a modern day bradman
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    How could you not play someone who averages 100? That would just be ridiculous, no matter how much of a shocker he was in the feild. Feilding can be taught to an extent, there is no way batting like Bradman can be.

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