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At the request of SJS in the Greatest English Batsman thread, here's one for Australia, excluding Bradman who would undoubtedly finish first. Personally, my choice is Greg Chappell, by a small margin.
Haha. I knew someone would want to vote for someone I didn't put in there. I only added Damien Martyn at the last second, and nearly put Gilchrist and Langer in there too. :PJamee999 said:Gilchrist :P
so in your opinion who should it be?a massive zebra said:Charlie MacCartney, Arthur Morris, Doug Walters and Adam Gilchrist should be on that list.
Contemporary opinion would point to Trumper - no other Australian batsman bar Bradman has ever been quite so revered and regard with awe, deference, and devotion among the players and commentators of the time. The stats however would point to Chappell, Hayden or Ponting.
so is that based on what ex players, cricket writers have said about Trumper or is it based on FACT (ie using averages etc)a massive zebra said:I voted Trumper because I thought other people would not (most recent is remembered most fondly syndrome), but would be perfectly happy to go for Chappell, Ponting or Harvey if pushed.
It is based on what ex players have said. Trumper's stats are comparatively modest but he played in a completely different era on dire pitches and was confronted by frequent sticky wickets so averages are pointless really.Swervy said:so is that based on what ex players, cricket writers have said about Trumper or is it based on FACT (ie using averages etc)
but werent you one of the people who said ex players meant nothing in the face of averagesa massive zebra said:It is based on what ex players have said. Trumper's stats are comparatively modest but he played in a completely different era on dire pitches and was confronted by frequent sticky wickets so averages are pointless really.
What I was saying is averages are a better guide than heresay if the players in question played in the same era under similar conditions. Comparing the averages of players 100 years apart is meaningless. In 1900 a bowling average of 22 was reasonable, in 2000 it was world class; in 1980 a batting average of 50 was great, now it is very good.Swervy said:but werent you one of the people who said ex players meant nothing in the face of averages