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Thread: West Indies in Oz cut to three tests to accomodate Twenty20

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    I always thought that the ashes series was too long because of the way the english played the last few ashes. but this time around I think the english will be more competitive.
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    83    157   8      4237    28.44      79      22         4       169*
    
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    45    18   18.7  27
    
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    179   174    5828      37.84     67    48     3        121
    
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    27    24     716      35.80    15      6         0       71*   74.58

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    I guess I'll have to dissect this then since some of you can't see how some of this is misinformed garbage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Thunder
    but the effect it has on the actual cricket isn't good at all.
    Based on what - given the format has been around about 2 years you won't have a clue what effect it'll have, especially since you and all the other main critics on here haven't actually SEEN it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Thunder
    It should never be used in schools and junior level, as the last thing you want to do 13-14-15 year old's is to encourage this type of slogging, and discouraging youngsters from wanting to bowl.
    Again you don't know anything about the format (you can tell who hasn't when they go on about slogging - Pakistan tried slogging against Australia A and got trounced, it's about playing lots of genuine cricket shots and executing them well). So how would you know whether it'd be good for 13-15 year olds or not?

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    If you have 10 wickets in hand and twenty overs to go, you wont see much more than slogging. I have watched twenty20 played in England and it does nothing for the quality of cricket.

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    got my first live viewing of the format on the weekend. Every batsmen who went out came out trying to smash **** out of the ball. For some it was succesful. For some it wasn't.

    Haven't seen it in England, but play cricket with and/or know a number of people who live in England during our winter and all have said that although it's very popular, the cricket itself doesn't nothing to encourage proper play.

    The affect this form of the game will have on bowlers:

    The most effective form of bowling in this is the medium pacers who take the pace right off the ball. Quick bowlers such Shoaib Akhtar, Brett Lee and even guys not so quick (McGrath, Pollock) might bowls great line and lengths, but if a guy is swinging and hitting then the ball is just going to go the boundary quicker.

    A bowler who takes the pace off the ball may get hit, but because there is no pace or bounce from the ball then it is less likely to get to the boundary. This is what i assumed when first reading about the concept, and have been told the most succesful bowlers in the 20/20 comp where these medium pacers - Ian Harvey, Chris Harris type bowlers.

    Now is this really the type of bowler you want to encourage young cricketers to be like?? One Day cricket is bad enough in encouraging these sort of guys let alone this form of the game.........


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    I quite enjoyed the 20/20 match concept its new and exciting although i dont think you should be able to run on a free hit if you get bowled and Haddin's ugly tactic of running behind the stumps and trying to hit should be discouraged as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by membersstand
    As a West Indies fan it seems a perfectly sensible decision to me.

    The last series in Australia was horribly one-sided and in an era where everyone is concerned about players being overworked it seems daft to encourage the best team in the world to play a 5-test series against the 8th best.

    Frankly, I don't think that many West Indies players or fans will be too peturbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratyush
    If you have 10 wickets in hand and twenty overs to go, you wont see much more than slogging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Oh you do.
    Oh like what?

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    A lot of batsmen hvae scored runs by playing proper cricket.

    Slogging from ball 1 onwards is never tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    A lot of batsmen hvae scored runs by playing proper cricket.

    Slogging from ball 1 onwards is never tried.
    There isnt much more than slogging in twenty20. You may bat a few more overs less aggresively to try to be safe with the wickets but in some time you go for the slogging. Its crap cricket with nothing in it for the bowlers.

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    Which shows how little of it you've seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Which shows how little of it you've seen.
    I have seen two games. Not enough to make a complete judgement but if I was a bowler and batsmen were smacking me for more than 8 runs an over, I wouldnt say there is a lot in it for me. Some times I will get a few wickets if the batsmen slog and mishit but I wont have enoh time to work the batsmen out. I wont feel as if I have bowled unplayable balls to get them out. Most of the time it will be balls to restrict runs which will get them out.

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    Exactly, 2 games is nowhere near enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Exactly, 2 games is nowhere near enough.
    Okay agreed on that. But I fail to imagine how bowlers can be happy with being smacked for more than eight runs an over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratyush
    Okay agreed on that. But I fail to imagine how bowlers can be happy with being smacked for more than eight runs an over.
    i think you are missing the point somewhat here....

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