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    Andrew Strauss - Not a bad start, chap.

    If Andrew Strauss either finishes this innings with an unbeaten score or else achieves his 1159th run (he's on something like 1134 at the moment), he would finish his innings and be able to say that of any player who has played at least 20 innings in test matches, he is second in the current history of cricket when it comes to test averages behind the great Don Bradman.

    Before this test, he was in 8th place - still ahead of any current player with a tidy 58.61 average.
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    After 20 innings, Bradman had 1889 runs at 99.42 with eight centuries... So, erm, I think that one's out of reach.
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    What? You don't think an octuple century is on the cards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    After 20 innings, Bradman had 1889 runs at 99.42 with eight centuries... So, erm, I think that one's out of reach.
    It's so far out of reach that I just don't really think about it these days. Second best in the world behind Bradman is effectively a first in the world in my eyes. Not worth comparing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB
    It's so far out of reach that I just don't really think about it these days. Second best in the world behind Bradman is effectively a first in the world in my eyes. Not worth comparing.
    Who's 'second' record would he break?

    Can you publish the records of say the top ten batsmen on that list? I reckon Kambli would be high in that list..

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    He'd overtake Graeme Pollock who is on 60.97 (along with Headley, Sutcliffe, Paynter, Barrington and Weekes).

    The live career stats as the match goes on between England and South Africa at Johannesburg.
    The highest test averages for any player with over 20 innings

    EDIT: With Strauss just hitting a six, that puts him only 10 runs away from a definite finish on top of Pollock.
    Last edited by Loony BoB; 13-01-2005 at 05:33 AM.

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    Ahh, so you mean his average would be the second best for any player with at least 20 innings currently, not the second best AFTER 20 innings. The second would be more remarkable, because of the number of players who had amazing starts to their careers but then dropped off to some degree or another.

    Some that spring to mind are (after 20 innings):
    Herbert Sutcliffe - 1348 runs @ 74.89
    Sunil Gavaskar - 1047 @ 61.59
    Vinod Kambli - 1056 @ 55.58
    Walter Hammond - 1321 runs @ 73.39
    Neil Harvey - 1268 @ 79.25

    There's probably others I can't think of too. Still, a very impressive start.

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    Would be cool if some one can get the best averages of players after 20 completed innings..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratyush
    Would be cool if some one can get the best averages of players after 20 completed innings..
    The only thing I can find is the "best averages after X innings" thing on howstat.com, but it only has the leader after each innings, which is basically Bradman from 10 to 80, and then Hammond, Sobers, Tendulkar and Border from there on.

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    Possible averages after this innings for Strauss...

    Code:
    Match Runs	Career Runs	Out	Not Out
    107		1162		61.16	64.56
    110		1165		61.32	64.72
    120		1175		61.84	65.28
    130		1185		62.37	65.83
    140		1195		62.89	66.39
    150		1205		63.42	66.94
    160		1215		63.95	67.50
    170		1225		64.47	68.06
    180		1235		65.00	68.61
    190		1245		65.53	69.17
    200		1255		66.05	69.72
    250 (maybe!)	1305		68.68	72.50
    300 (erm...)	1355		71.32	75.28
    350 (wishful!)	1405		73.95	78.06
    400 (:p)	1455		76.58	80.83
    500 (haha)	1555		81.84	86.39
    Last edited by Loony BoB; 13-01-2005 at 06:24 AM.

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    Some of those seem wrong, Loony Bob. Just before, they had his stats up showing his current average at 64.17 (which would be the same had the innings ended with him not out then). And he definitely hasn't hit 170 yet!
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    Fixed - had him out one more time than he should have been!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB
    350 (wishful!)
    I wonder what the others are then

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    Does have a thing about nervy 130s, though - 136 this series, 137 HS, dropped on 130 here (if I'm reading cricinfo rightly)...I suppose, if he gets there every time, no problem!

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