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    Ponting as captain of Australia.

    m--runs-hs----ave--100-50
    10 836 207 52.25 1 5

    Not bad form for a captain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scallywag
    Averages for last 5 tests

    Kallis 71
    Lara 42
    Ponting 91
    Gilchrist 81
    Flintoff 37
    Martyn 78

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    Wonderful use of selective figures there - why am I not surprised?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Wonderful use of selective figures there - why am I not surprised?
    We are talking about current form and I would imagine current form would be the last one or two series.

    What do you consider to be current form and I will look at those stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scallywag
    Ponting as captain of Australia.

    m--runs-hs----ave--100-50
    10 836 207 52.25 1 5

    Not bad form for a captain
    I think his record is not all that great bar that 200. Plus I think guys like Martyn and Kallis have done better than Ponting and therefore deserve a place at his expense on the list of the best current players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scallywag
    Averages for last 5 tests

    Kallis 71
    Lara 42
    Ponting 91
    Gilchrist 81
    Flintoff 37
    Martyn 78

    McGrath 27wickets @16
    Why isnt Tendulkar on the list ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scallywag
    We are talking about current form and I would imagine current form would be the last one or two series.

    What do you consider to be current form and I will look at those stats.
    I think it would be fair to say that Ponting had a poor start to his captaincy, prior to returning to Australia. However, it's worth remembering that during those first three series (Sri Lanka away, Sri Lanka home and India away) he only played 5 tests and was troubled by injury, and before that was 2003 where he averaged over 100. So yes, he had 5 poor tests after becoming captain in which he averaged around 30, and has since had 5 tests in which he averages 90, giving him an overall average as captain of 52. If you extend your definition of "current form" any further back to when he became captain 10 months ago you get his awesome series against India and his record looks even better. So, I don't know exactly how you could make his form as captain look poor by picking any particular number of tests to judge him by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani
    I think his record is not all that great bar that 200. Plus I think guys like Martyn and Kallis have done better than Ponting and therefore deserve a place at his expense on the list of the best current players.
    Pontings last 15 innings

    4*
    207
    62*
    7
    98
    25
    26*
    68
    51
    12
    11
    45
    22
    20
    92

    Looks ok to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja moo
    Why isnt Tendulkar on the list ?
    Someone may have suggested Tendulkar but I didnt see it and I only looked at players that had been nominated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scallywag
    We are talking about current form and I would imagine current form would be the last one or two series.

    What do you consider to be current form and I will look at those stats.
    Perhaps you would be kind enough to remind us of the 2004 stats for each of those named.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scallywag
    Someone may have suggested Tendulkar but I didnt see it and I only looked at players that had been nominated.
    In that case, please look him up now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Perhaps you would be kind enough to remind us of the 2004 stats for each of those named.
    For future reference is 1 year what you call current form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scallywag
    Pontings last 15 innings

    4*
    207
    62*
    7
    98
    25
    26*
    68
    51
    12
    11
    45
    22
    20
    92

    Looks ok to me.
    Sorry, I meant his form since he became captain bar that 200 is not all that great. Plus, like I said, inspite of his good record, I still think Martyn and Kallis deserve their places in that list more than him.

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    statsguru list the games in blocks of 5 test matches and as five is the minimun I assumed that that would be current form, if you want I can look up in lots of 5,10,15,20,25 and so on.

    just let me know what you consider to be current form and then when you or anyone else says current form I will understand what you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scallywag
    statsguru list the games in blocks of 5 test matches and as five is the minimun I assumed that that would be current form, if you want I can look up in lots of 5,10,15,20,25 and so on.

    just let me know what you consider to be current form and then when you or anyone else says current form I will understand what you mean.
    Ponting's block of 5 tests preceding the last 5 is poor. That's not exactly "current form" though, and his last 10 is pretty good.

    For what it's worth, Ponting's 2004 was 697 runs @ 41 in 10 tests. That's basically his captaincy record minus the double hundred and with Steve Waugh's final test added in. Again, not exactly current form, but not spectacular.

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    So I take it that one year is considered current form.

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