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    Luckiest and Unluckiest batsmen

    Its often been said that good batsmen make their own luck, this is no doubt true to an extent. However as a long term cricket watcher I'm adament that some batsmen seem to have more than their share luck whereas others often of equal talent just have nothing go there way.

    The lucky batsmen seem to always have close decisions go there way, will play and miss without ever seeming to get an edge, will have catches dropped and will often french-cut without ever playing on. While others will often edge a good ball early on or often manage to play-on with a french cut or often seem be dismissed by 50/50 umpiring decisions.

    Lucky batsmen that spring to mind are:

    Justin Langer (luckiest of all in my opinion) - great player don't get me wrong, but the amount of times he seems to play and miss, miscue into no-mans land never finding a fielder and get goods decisions in unbelievable.

    Andrew Strauss (his test debut was unbelievable- in fact from memory he played on to his stumps and the bail somehow manged to stay in place)

    Graham Gooch

    Mark Taylor

    Adam Gilchrist

    Mark Richardson

    Sanath Jayasuria

    Graham Smith

    Unlucky batsmen....

    Stephen Fleming (always seems to edge a good ball early)

    Damien Martyn

    Micheal Vaughan

    Mark Waugh


    Whilst one could argue that through a players career these things even themselves out....I genuinely believe some batsmen just seem to have the luck of the Devil..


    Any thoughts ? Have I missed any one obvious...

    Plse note...I'm not downplaying the ability or skill of any of those above "lucky" batsmen. I just feel they seem to have more than there fair share of luck.

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    Gilchrist is the luckiest batsman I have ever seen and probably ever will see. Every innings without fail he mis-hits aerial shots that fortuitously split fielders, plays and misses without ever getting an edge, and generally just hits the ball to places where he doesn't intend it to go. Plus he gets dropped a lot. Agree on Fleming as well.

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    Luckiest batsmen:
    Matthew Hayden
    Virender Sehwag
    Adam Gilchrist
    Marcus Trescothick
    Michael Vaughan (in 2002)
    Unluckiest:
    Andrew Flintoff
    Michael Vaughan (of late)

    Note: this is for Tests only
    Sidenote: for most batsmen, a career will go by and they will get quite a bit more good luck than bad. For some, they have a massive amount of luck, more than natural. For a tiny few, they have more bad than good. Those are exceptionally unusual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinzan12
    Andrew Strauss (his test debut was unbelievable- in fact from memory he played on to his stumps and the bail somehow manged to stay in place)
    Is that luckier than Brian Lara doing the same when pulling to break the world record (the first time)?
    Sreesanth said, "Next ball he was beaten and I said, 'is this the King Charles Lara? Who is this impostor, moving around nervously? I should have kept my mouth shut for the next ball - mind you, it was a length ball - Lara just pulled it over the church beyond the boundary! He is a true legend."

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    re: Hayden. You've got a point Richard, as you said previously, Kyle Mills seems to get him out in the first over every time he plays him, yet never gets the decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thierry henry
    Gilchrist is the luckiest batsman I have ever seen and probably ever will see. Every innings without fail he mis-hits aerial shots that fortuitously split fielders, plays and misses without ever getting an edge, and generally just hits the ball to places where he doesn't intend it to go. Plus he gets dropped a lot. Agree on Fleming as well.
    Gilchrist goes at it hard. That's to his credit. It's a catch it if you can mentality. More power to him for it. He does, after all, average over 50 (albeit dropping of late).

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    My own brief contribution... Wavell Hinds in 2000 was EXTREMELY unlucky. He got a few very poor decisions on that tour of England. More as I recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zinzan12
    Andrew Strauss (his test debut was unbelievable- in fact from memory he played on to his stumps and the bail somehow manged to stay in place)
    He played one crap shot and got lucky.

    Why don't we shoot him right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
    Gilchrist goes at it hard. That's to his credit. It's a catch it if you can mentality. More power to him for it. He does, after all, average over 50 (albeit dropping of late).
    "Going at it hard" is a bit of a cliche. He hits the ball in the air and regularly mistimes it. He often seems to have no idea where the ball is going. Most players would pick out a fielder much more regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
    My own brief contribution... Wavell Hinds in 2000 was EXTREMELY unlucky. He got a few very poor decisions on that tour of England. More as I recall.
    When clearly in good form, he got at least 3 questionable decisions.
    Didn't help himself by looking so clueless against the inswingers, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thierry henry
    re: Hayden. You've got a point Richard, as you said previously, Kyle Mills seems to get him out in the first over every time he plays him, yet never gets the decision.
    Well - he got it once (at The 'Gabba) but it's quite incredible, and inestimatably annoying, that someone who's exposed the flaws so clearly hasn't got the credit for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    When clearly in good form, he got at least 3 questionable decisions.
    Didn't help himself by looking so clueless against the inswingers, though.
    Still IMO it hurt his career for such a run to occur so early in the piece.

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    Quite possibly so.
    Being forced to open almost all the time from then on hasn't helped, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thierry henry
    "Going at it hard" is a bit of a cliche. He hits the ball in the air and regularly mistimes it. He often seems to have no idea where the ball is going. Most players would pick out a fielder much more regularly.
    I don't think anyone can say Gilchrist doesn't strike it powerfully. Even his edges and mistimed shots would take a whole lot of catching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Quite possibly so.
    Being forced to open almost all the time from then on hasn't helped, either.
    That's a lot to do with the start he got off to opening the batting. He and Sherwin Campbell were very impressive together in the fifth Test of the 2000/01 debacle.

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