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Andrew Symonds
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Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
His county form was impressive, yes - so is Pietersen's.
I still have slight doubts over whether Pietersen is yet a Test-class player. There are marked similarities in their play, in that they both score incredibly quickly most of the time - something not easy to get away with in Test-cricket in England, and harder still in the 1990s.
I still have slight doubts over whether Pietersen is yet a Test-class player. There are marked similarities in their play, in that they both score incredibly quickly most of the time - something not easy to get away with in Test-cricket in England, and harder still in the 1990s.
PY
International Coach
Slightly OT, but if Pietersen is a no 4 or 5 then is he going to replace Thorpe?
If so, then we shouldn't have any problems scoring runs with Vaughan, Pietersen and Flintoff at 4,5 and 6 but what happens if the chips are down? I'm of the belief we need a world-class grafter in the middle-order to balance up the batting.
I think Symonds would have found it quite easy to get into the England side of the mid-90s to be honest. Wasn't exactly the golden era of English cricket was it? Pity he didn't because it does seem like the Aussies are wasting him.
If so, then we shouldn't have any problems scoring runs with Vaughan, Pietersen and Flintoff at 4,5 and 6 but what happens if the chips are down? I'm of the belief we need a world-class grafter in the middle-order to balance up the batting.
I think Symonds would have found it quite easy to get into the England side of the mid-90s to be honest. Wasn't exactly the golden era of English cricket was it? Pity he didn't because it does seem like the Aussies are wasting him.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
i dont think england have anyone really capable of replacing thorpe with someone who can play the same role, i suppose ian bell may bat at number 5 but he wouldnt be the digging in player that thorpe is,
and as for rob key the less we see of him the better, pietersen and bell and even collingwood are better players than him. keys only real achievement was pasting a poor west indian attack over a very batsman friendly surface.
and as for rob key the less we see of him the better, pietersen and bell and even collingwood are better players than him. keys only real achievement was pasting a poor west indian attack over a very batsman friendly surface.
Link
State Vice-Captain
Ian Bell is the most suitable replacement for Thorpe, they have many similarities when it comes to their batting, that will very likely be Bell's future role.
And key, what about his knock in Perth, and you cant do much better than score a double hunderd in your first game back.
And key, what about his knock in Perth, and you cant do much better than score a double hunderd in your first game back.
Getting back to Andrew Symonds, IMO his debut in SL was unfotunate. He is still a very good ODI player and unfortunately the very good run of form by the senior (by this I mean the ageing ones) players means he, Katich, Love and the likes have to wait longer .
Unfortunately the longer he waits for his Test opportunity, the greater the likelihood he would be off his peak and the more likelier possibility of him being branded in the Michael Bevan, Ian Harvey mould as ODI specialists only !!
To me it seems for Symonds to make it into the current Test Team he would have to replace Martyn or Clarke !!
(ie either of these two to go off the boil and hit a very lean patch) This seems extremely unlikely ATM.
Unfortunately the longer he waits for his Test opportunity, the greater the likelihood he would be off his peak and the more likelier possibility of him being branded in the Michael Bevan, Ian Harvey mould as ODI specialists only !!
To me it seems for Symonds to make it into the current Test Team he would have to replace Martyn or Clarke !!
(ie either of these two to go off the boil and hit a very lean patch) This seems extremely unlikely ATM.
Mister Wright
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Josh said:
Yeah, they must be considering about the only trophy we don't have in our cabinet is the ICC Champions trophy, which is a bit of a hit & miss affair. They are doing a terrible job.
Mr Casson
Cricketer Of The Year
Don't even bother Kyle, everything he says is absolute crap. Find me a sensible post from Josh and I'll find you a golden mule.Mister Wright said:
Two matches is enough for the selectors to know some things, for example whether Symonds has a lack of application or simply isn't test standard. The fact of the matter is that in the Australian set up, there are so many quality players snapping at the heels of the incumbents that you can't afford not to perform. You get a limited chance to show your worth; it's rough, but that's the way it works.
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
especially when the selectors have taken a massive gamble upon you, and removed someone who had made a 100 in his last test for australia (will stand corrected if not true), then you have a responsibility to perform well. he didnt in those two tests, and in the end it was a case of katich deserving his place back in the team more than symonds being dropped.
