saeed anwar

[Richard]

So much so that it didn't get mentioned on the commentary?

Got mentioned on the commentary I was listening to.

 

[Richard]

..Vice-versa, tit-for-tat.., typical but happens

Yes, yes, I know - but (mercifully) I've not come across any of the Pakistani variety. On this board, anyway.

 

[Richard]

..game isn't over until someone's actually out. What you are suggesting is just an lazy chair argument (with couple of beers if u like)...and the only one's arguing abt the innings is in that group, not the world

No, the game isn't over, but I'm not talking about games, I never use first-chance scores in terms of games.
They're to do with rating batsmen solely.

 

[Richard]

..he wasn't in a position, Wasim suggested that he should have been standing at the edge of the circle, which he wasn't..so he was gonna make a catch outta it which offcourse he didn't. Nothing simple abt it

Well the commentary I heard (and a report or two I read) made it seem pretty simple.
We all know how rushed CricInfo BBB can often be.

 

[marc71178]

Rushed or not, it wouldn't miss what was supposedly a major drop off one of the best players of the generation.

 

[Sehwag309]

Yes, yes, I know - but (mercifully) I've not come across any of the Pakistani variety. On this board, anyway.

..hehe, he is banned but some didn't forget

 

[Sehwag309]

OK, Who mentioned 47 in the 1st place?

It was all wrong, it was actually 32

End of over 6 (3 runs) India 53/2 (RR: 8.83 RRR: 221/44 = 5.02)
Waqar Younis 2-0-14-2 - Hennops River End
SR Tendulkar 28* (21b 4x4 1x6) M Kaif 0* (1b)

6.1 Wasim Akram to Tendulkar, no run, outside off and left alone
6.2 Wasim Akram to Tendulkar, two runs, goes back, crowd is cheering
both sides as he turnes it to mid wicket
6.3 Wasim Akram to Tendulkar, two runs, and again turned to mid wicket
and a good save that runs away after Sami almost stops it
6.4 Wasim Akram to Tendulkar, one run, Dropped! int the air and Razzaq
leaps and got his fingers to it at mid on
6.5 Wasim Akram to Kaif, no run, short, defends it awkwardly into the
covers
6.6 Wasim Akram to Kaif, no run, into the blockhole, prodded out to mid
on as the drama of an India Pakistan game heightens the tension
all over the world

This shot was after Sehwag and Ganguly Departed one after the other

1 thing should be noted that Sachin was consistently performing in the World Cup, whereas this was the only good knock by Saeed Anwar (as he always does v/s India)

 

[wahindiawah]

Which of course couldn't possibly be because Elahi is a good one-day player (at least in the subcontinent - so don't start on that Anant) could it?
Why do I get the feeling you're so keen on the "who's talking about the one-dayers" stance because Pakistan have beaten India in 4 out of 4 recently?
Like it or not, Pakistan do have a good opener at present - in the ODIs - in Salman Butt.

lol thats pretty stupid. The reason i wasn't taling about onedayer is because a batsman is basically judge by his performance at the superior format of cricket which happen to be test cricket.

 

[Richard]

Rushed or not, it wouldn't miss what was supposedly a major drop off one of the best players of the generation.

No?
I suggest that it matters not any prior context ("best players of generation"; "major drop"), but simply the current ball.
Like many other instances, the commentator tried to describe it accurately, but didn't have the time.

 

[Richard]

..hehe, he is banned but some didn't forget

Well - FRAZ was exceptional in many ways... and he did do a better job of disguising it (to the rank-and-file - obviously not to the top guys) than some (wahindiawah).

 

[Richard]

OK, Who mentioned 47 in the 1st place?

It was all wrong, it was actually 32

End of over 6 (3 runs) India 53/2 (RR: 8.83 RRR: 221/44 = 5.02)
Waqar Younis 2-0-14-2 - Hennops River End
SR Tendulkar 28* (21b 4x4 1x6) M Kaif 0* (1b)

6.1 Wasim Akram to Tendulkar, no run, outside off and left alone
6.2 Wasim Akram to Tendulkar, two runs, goes back, crowd is cheering
both sides as he turnes it to mid wicket
6.3 Wasim Akram to Tendulkar, two runs, and again turned to mid wicket
and a good save that runs away after Sami almost stops it
6.4 Wasim Akram to Tendulkar, one run, Dropped! int the air and Razzaq
leaps and got his fingers to it at mid on
6.5 Wasim Akram to Kaif, no run, short, defends it awkwardly into the
covers
6.6 Wasim Akram to Kaif, no run, into the blockhole, prodded out to mid
on as the drama of an India Pakistan game heightens the tension
all over the world

This shot was after Sehwag and Ganguly Departed one after the other

True, I stand corrected.
32 it was.
Even less good an innings, then.

1 thing should be noted that Sachin was consistently performing in the World Cup, whereas this was the only good knock by Saeed Anwar (as he always does v/s India)

That's true enough, but where did I deny that - I was simply talking about this match.

 

[Richard]

lol thats pretty stupid. The reason i wasn't taling about onedayer is because a batsman is basically judge by his performance at the superior format of cricket which happen to be test cricket.

There are good Test batsmen and there are good ODI batsmen.
Salman, incidentally, has now demonstrated that he might be one who's good at both...

 

[wahindiawah]

Right, so Akhtar is better than all the Indian pacers and none have really stepped up with results as yet to say that they are better than the other Pakistani prospects. .

oh thank you for breaking the great news about Akhter being better than others s .

i have already siad that Pak has a one man bowling attack in Akhter. but apart from that they have none of any note. Pathan and Khan might not be great paces yet BUT they have performed much better than the likes of Khalil,sami,asif and Naveed.This is something i was trying to point out.

 

[wahindiawah]

There are good Test batsmen and there are good ODI batsmen.
Salman, incidentally, has now demonstrated that he might be one who's good at both...

Might and might not, remains to be seen.

though i sincerely hope he does become a good test opener , so pakistan will atleast have 1 opener of any note in future.

 

[Richard]

oh thank you for breaking the great news about Akhter being better than others s .

i have already siad that Pak has a one man bowling attack in Akhter. but apart from that they have none of any note. Pathan and Khan might not be great paces yet BUT they have performed much better than the likes of Khalil,sami,asif and Naveed.This is something i was trying to point out.

Pathan's Test-average against countries other than Bangladesh is in the 40s - Khan has done virtually nothing outside that series on seam-paradises in New Zealand in 2002\03.
They're all equally poor as far as I'm concerned - Naved-Ul-Hasan, Khalil, Asif et al have simply played a bit less.

 

[from_da_lost_di]

Pathan's Test-average against countries other than Bangladesh is in the 40s - Khan has done virtually nothing outside that series on seam-paradises in New Zealand in 2002\03.
They're all equally poor as far as I'm concerned - Naved-Ul-Hasan, Khalil, Asif et al have simply played a bit less.

WORDS!

 

[Gangster]

Far, far better than the subsequent Tendulkar knock, yes.

You're making some sort of ridiculous joke, I presume?

 

[wahindiawah]

Pathan's Test-average against countries other than Bangladesh is in the 40s - Khan has done virtually nothing outside that series on seam-paradises in New Zealand in 2002\03.
They're all equally poor as far as I'm concerned - Naved-Ul-Hasan, Khalil, Asif et al have simply played a bit less.

Pathan & Khan have met greater success than the mentioned lot , they also happen to have more potential.

naveed,asif and khalil seems to be very mediocre players , they haven't played much and won't get much chances in future simply coz they don't have the potential to become fontline pacers for Pakistan.

 

[Richard]

Pathan & Khan have met greater success than the mentioned lot , they also happen to have more potential.

No, they don't - that is entirely down to subjunctive opinion.

naveed,asif and khalil seems to be very mediocre players , they haven't played much and won't get much chances in future simply coz they don't have the potential to become fontline pacers for Pakistan.

No, they don't if you ask me - but they could perfectly possibly prove the both of us wrong.

 

[from_da_lost_di]

Pathan & Khan have met greater success than the mentioned lot , they also happen to have more potential.

naveed,asif and khalil seems to be very mediocre players , they haven't played much and won't get much chances in future simply coz they don't have the potential to become fontline pacers for Pakistan.