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    Gillespie - All Rounder??

    Can Dizzy now be classed as an alrounder? lol i say this in jest, but really... richie Benaud pointed out that he could (and most likely will) become something like the 5th Australian to take 200+ wickets and score 1000+ runs with the bat, a very good achievement... Surely he can't be classed as an all rounder.... can he??

    And also... what players do you know of had (or have) a career where theres noway you can consider them an all rounder, but when you look at their statistics, they give the impression of someone who can bat and bowl
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    yeah he cant really he averages about 15 and has only 1 half-century
    he's just a bowler who can bat a bit

    i was quite surprised by Giles's average though, over 20 now

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Baconator
    yeah he cant really he averages about 15 and has only 1 half-century
    he's just a bowler who can bat a bit
    2 half centuries! lol.... i realise that he cant, it was sort of a passing comment, but im just wondering about players who's statistics tell a different story to their career.... the second part of my question is the one im most interested in,lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Baconator
    i was quite surprised by Giles's average though, over 20 now
    Giles has been a very useful number 8 for quite some time now.
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    i would say people i wouldnt consider allrounders though statistics might say a different story ( based on batting skill) would be the likes of Malcolm Marshall, Alan Davidson, Wasim Akram,Chaminda Vaas,Heath Streak,Lindwall,Titmus,Vettori,etc..... basically people with 20ish average ( +/- 3-4) or so.

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    I've been reading a book I got for Christmas, 200 Years of Australian Tests, and in it, it has scorecards from every game, and in quite a few, Malcolm Marshall did more then he needed to with the bat.

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    Curtley Ambrose is another one.

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    if jason gillespie was indian hed be an all rounder
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    interesting to note that this season(including his recent 50*) gillespie has 206 runs@29.43

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_C
    i would say people i wouldnt consider allrounders though statistics might say a different story ( based on batting skill) would be the likes of Malcolm Marshall, Alan Davidson, Wasim Akram,Chaminda Vaas,Heath Streak,Lindwall,Titmus,Vettori,etc..... basically people with 20ish average ( +/- 3-4) or so.
    Alan Davidson was certainly an all-rounder - along with a bowler as good as you'll see.
    In the later stages of his career his Test-batting improved.
    Wasim Akram largely wasted a pretty large amount of batting talent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00
    2 half centuries! lol.... i realise that he cant, it was sort of a passing comment, but im just wondering about players who's statistics tell a different story to their career.... the second part of my question is the one im most interested in,lol
    Gillespie is a pretty decent batsman - like Hoggard in quite a few ways, and it seems that, having both trod water for a couple of years, they're both getting better very quickly of late.

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    Having looked at the facts, Gillespie's actually had good periods and bad periods in batting:
    November 2002 - March 2004
    Next 8 games
    In the last 4 Tests (only 4 innings, mind) he's averaged 70.
    Before November 2002 he'd had only occasional moments - though several played a big part in matches

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    No, he's not an all-rounder - shows how desperate the Aussies are for an all-rounder since Miller and to a lesser extent Davidson, doesn't it?
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