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    I do not think Ganguly cannot make the Indian side right now. But oul he the best option as a batsman two years down the line? Laxman is a talented player but has he shown any level of discipline by throwin ghis wicket so easily in so many matches over the years?

    Its two years to go for the World Cup and atleast one of these two players has to be replaced and other players have to be tried to find the right players for the team by 2007.

    Many teams have found their teams to be too old in a specific cup in the name of experience and struggled. Pakistan 1996 is the best example. Most teams bar the top notch teams who were easily the best team in the tournament like Australia in 2003, Windies in 1979 and Sri Lanka in 1996, have had young teams. Its time some chopping is done and the best ompbination keeping 2007 in mind is worked upon right from now.

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    You can't look at that and say they've all been successful with young teams.
    The best bet - by far - is to pick the best side full-stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    You can't look at that and say they've all been successful with young teams.
    The best bet - by far - is to pick the best side full-stop.
    I would say the best bet is to pick a side which is likely to perform the best in 2007.


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    Laxman is a talented player but has he shown any level of discipline by throwin ghis wicket so easily in so many matches over the years?
    What have the lesser ODI specialists done to be let off the hook? Dinesh Mongia, for instance, has just 4 scores of over 50. Laxman as 6 scores of over 100, one more than that of all the ODI regulars pt together. When he gets a start, he usually makes a big score. In fact, this year, he has been the team's best ODI batsman, averaging over 40, with 4 100's. To add, he is a terrific slip-fielder, while Dinesh is an average outfielder.
    Its time some chopping is done and the best ompbination keeping 2007 in mind is worked upon right from now.
    How about a change in strategies as well? Player positions must be optimised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjun
    about a change in strategies as well? Player positions must be optimised.
    As far as stategies is concerned, India should from now on abandon its policy of going into a odi match with 7 batters and 4 bowlers. I would like to see 5 specialist batsmen, 1 allrounde, 4 specialist bowlers and one specialist keeper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratyush

    Pakistan I believe has a good chance in 2007 though they wouldnt win the cup if its played right now because changes have been made in their side. Plainning with 2007 in mind has to be made for the one day teams. Else the players playing then wont have adequate experience.
    Pakistan won't have Inzamam in 2007,thats for sure.I can't imagine a Pak batting lineup without Inzi, considering that i think Pakistan will have poor chances.

    Best think Pakistan selectors can do is to discard Inzamam from the Oneday team permanently.Asim Kamal should instead be drafted into the od team as he can prove to be the backbone of Pak batting lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratyush

    IMO Ganguly, Laxman should be removed from the side while Dravid and Tendulkar should stay on till 2007 for experience.

    Possible Indian XI

    Sehwag
    Tendulkar
    Dravid
    Yuvraj
    Kaif
    Another player to be found before the World Cup (maybe Mongia, Sriram but not sure)
    Dhoni/Katrhik/Any other keeper
    Pathan
    Kumble (for experience)
    Karthik/Bhajji
    Another faster bowler to be found before the world cup
    kumble would last till 2007? i seriously doubt that. I would go for harb over karthik anyday though. The second pacer that should be in the team should either be Zaheer or Balaji, both of whome have potential to deliver.

    And you didn't mentioned as to who should be the captain of the side? (as you have discarded Ganguly from the team)

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    I am surprised that you guys are even considering of dropping Ganguly by the next world cup. Unlesss something drastic happens like really really bad form or injury, Ganguly would be the next world cup captain. Don't forget, after Tendulkar, he has scored the second most number of centuries in ODI. Also, he is only few runs short, to become only the 3rd batsman (after Tendulkar, and Inzimam) to cross 10000 runs in ODI. Not to forget he happens to be the only captain, after Kapil Dev, to lead India to world cup finals. So people please...

    If anyone needs to be dropped, then I suggest Dravid. First, I don't agree him being a keeper (simply not good), and second, his type of game is not suited for one day cricket. Just like Laxman, these are players, who need time in the middle before they can get started. Their strike rates suggest the same.

    From the current ODI team, my team for world cup 07 would be
    1) Sehwag
    2) Tendulkar
    3) Ganguly (captain)
    4) Kaif (vice captain)
    5) Yuvraj
    6) All rounder position open
    7) Wicket Keeper batsman position open
    8) Pathan
    9) Harbhajan
    10) Kumble (if he keeps form, or any other good spinner)
    11) Fast Bowler position open (Khan, after the last world cup beating, unless he improves his form greatly, I would like to see him dropped).

    With this team, India would have 5 specialist batsmen, (if 5 cannot do a job in 50 over match, then you might as well forget about any hope of winning the world cup), 1 all rounder, 1 wicket keeper batsman, and 4 specialist bowlers.

    Given that India would have 1 all rounder, India would not have to rely on part time bowlers as well (like Yuvraj, Sehwag, Tendulkar), and would have 5 bowlers to share the 50 over quota.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratyush
    I would say the best bet is to pick a side which is likely to perform the best in 2007.
    AGREED!

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterblaster10
    I am surprised that you guys are even considering of dropping Ganguly by the next world cup. Unlesss something drastic happens like really really bad form or injury, Ganguly would be the next world cup captain. Don't forget, after Tendulkar, he has scored the second most number of centuries in ODI. Also, he is only few runs short, to become only the 3rd batsman (after Tendulkar, and Inzimam) to cross 10000 runs in ODI. Not to forget he happens to be the only captain, after Kapil Dev, to lead India to world cup finals. So people please...

    If anyone needs to be dropped, then I suggest Dravid. First, I don't agree him being a keeper (simply not good), and second, his type of game is not suited for one day cricket. Just like Laxman, these are players, who need time in the middle before they can get started. Their strike rates suggest the same.
    Dropping Dravid would be CRIMINAL. Dravid happen to be the backbone of Indian batting lineup, sure he has some weakness (as far as his oneday game is concerned) but he's too good a player to be dropped out.I agree with you on Dravid not continuing as the keeper though, India should have a specialist keeper and that guy should be karthik.

    With this team, India would have 5 specialist batsmen, (common if 5 cannot do a job in 50 over match, then you might as well forget about any hope of winning the world cup), 1 all rounder, and 1 wicket keeper batsman, and 4 specialist bowlers.
    Completely agreed, this is something which India should work on immediately.Playing with 7 batters is just bizzare .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Choora
    but he's too good a player to be dropped out.
    I beg to differ. Perfect example is Australia. Look at the difference in composition of their ODI and Test teams. Because of certain sacrifices (and impartiality) they are simply invincible in both ODI and Test.

    Just cause Dravid is too good a player it does not mean he suits the One Days. I agree he forms the backbone of batting line up...but only for Test matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterblaster10
    I beg to differ. Perfect example is Australia. Look at the difference in composition of their ODI and Test teams. Because of certain sacrifices (and impartiality) they are simply invincible in both ODI and Test.

    Just cause Dravid is too good a player it does not mean he suits the One Days. I agree he forms the backbone of batting line up...but only for Test matches.
    The same can also be said of Ganguly. He's not too bad a batsman, but a terrible fielder, and you cannot allow such players in a limited overs side if you want to win a tournament. Dravid does his job on the field well. He's also an active runner between wickets. Most importantly, he can rip a bowling attack to shreds in the final overs, being the best big-hitter in the side.

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    i'll be very interested to see who fills the allrounder role for india in ODI's in the coming years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjun
    What have the lesser ODI specialists done to be let off the hook? Dinesh Mongia, for instance, has just 4 scores of over 50. Laxman as 6 scores of over 100, one more than that of all the ODI regulars pt together. When he gets a start, he usually makes a big score. In fact, this year, he has been the team's best ODI batsman, averaging over 40, with 4 100's. To add, he is a terrific slip-fielder, while Dinesh is an average outfielder.How about a change in strategies as well? Player positions must be optimised.
    Laxman has played so much more than Mongia higher up the order. And Mongia hasnt been ever iven a run for a long period. I am not uggestin Mongia is better. We dont know how good he would be at the top level with conviction right now though.

    Also, Laxman is a rare talent. Any one who scores those magical runs vs Australia is indeed Very Very Special. Bu it gives him NO right to throw his wicket away almost carelessly as much as he has done. It is one thing which is criminal in cricketing terms and if you arent consistent and throw it all away after making 30-40 runs, you dont deserve to stay in a team.

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