Its actually quite funny
Its actually quite funny
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Err, yes.Originally Posted by Pinkline Jones
Do you three have anything to contribute to this forum other than your pathetic excuse for humour?
Originally Posted by Pinkline JonesI think you'll probably find your descriptions fit the word "infinitesimally".Originally Posted by Camel56
Don't play silly buggers with me, guys.
Hahahahahahahahaha cry me a river buddy... Its all fun and games big fellah just lighten up... Who knows anything about cricket in the U.S.A anyway?Originally Posted by cricket player
Originally Posted by Richard Rash
Richard i dont think you know much about usa cricket' usa has more player's then some of the other international player's
It is the state and metropolitan leagues and associations that have been flourishing in the last decade.
There are twice as many leagues/associations as in 1990, clubs and teams associated with leagues/associations have also doubled, and the number of players has also increased substantially over the past decade.
Ten years ago, the idea that there could be good cricket in (say) Nebraska or Oklahoma would have been treated with a smirk, or a disbelieving stare. In 2003, those are not ideas, but facts.
Unfortunately, it has always been difficult to keep track of these developments. Wisden Cricinfo has tried its best to keep up, but names, addresses and particulars keep changing.
The following list is our best information, at present, on regional cricket in the USA. If your league or association is not listed here, or if you would like to make a correction/addition to the listing, please send an email to Deb K. Das, USA Coordinator, Wisden Cricinfo, with the details of your organization for inclusion.
A newly started League with about 10 teams in Tucson, Phoenix and nearby locales, the Arizona C A has one of the few US leagues that operates exclusively during the winter months. Arizona CA also has regular inter-league fixtures with California, and Colorado and New Mexico cricket clubs as well.
Arizona Cricket Association
w: 602 452 5011
h: 480 390 2248
Mohsiul Alam Secretary
1711 West Gila,
Chandler AZ 85224
480 899 1235
Assistant Secretary, Fixtures
480 830 3816
602 545 4935
There are now FOUR cricket leagues in California.The 29-team Northern California C A and the 40-team Southern California C A are the two oldest and most strongly established Leagues on the West Coast, with histories dating back into the 19th century. Southern California also has one of the three largest cricket leagues in the USA. These two were joined by a new league called the Bay Area Cricket Alliance, founded in 1999, whose particulars are given below. Also in California is a league called the Los Angeles Social Cricket Alliance, founded in 1999 and consisting of 8 to 10 clubs which play recreational cricket, are not affiliated with the USA Cricket Association, and include the Compton Homies and Popz who have attracted worldwide attention for using cricket as a way to bring inner-city kids and the homelessinto the mainstream of American life.
Northern California Cricket Association
Laks M. Sampath President
700 Oakdale Avenue, Corte Madera, CA 94925-1611
(H) 415-927-3110 (W) 415-391-4455 x293
Rohan Chandran Vice President
3101 Middlefield Road, #7,Palo Alto, CA 94306
(H) 650-565-450 (W) (408) 980-9888 x223
708 Tea Tree Ct, San Jose, CA 95128
(H) 408-293-2055(W) 408-942-7100 x111
Los Angeles Social Cricket Alliance
Trevor Roper President
Matt WestonVice President
Bay Area Cricket Alliance
Nisar Chaudhry, Chairman
135 Heath St, Milpitas Ca 95035
Daun Jacobsen, Vice Chairman
Abrar Ahmad, Secretary
Southern California Cricket Association
3780 Brenner Drive
Santa Barbara CA 93105
4242 Lavinia Avenue
Lynnwood, CA 90262
3142 Clover Lane
Los Angeles, CA-90026
Although established for over 10 years, the Colorado C A has recently undergone an expansion, and is playing the 2001 season with 8 teams. It also hosts a regional inter-league tournament in mid-July, and has sent representative teams to Utah, New Mexico and to other West Coast tournaments.
Colorado Cricket League
With 20 or more teams in Connecticut , the state league has had an active program and hopes to present more events and exhibitions in 1999.
Connecticut Cricket League
Mr. Curtis Clark Chair Ms Elaine Hyman Vice-Chair
Ms Adrienne Ashley Recording Secy
Ms Carol Grayson
The smallest state in the Union, noted for being the first state to sign the Constitution of the United States, Delaware also has one of the oldest cricket clubs in the USA. The Delaware Cricket Association has been in existence for many years, and is now striving to break its isolation via CRICINFO, and the World Wide Web!
Delaware Cricket Association
302-998-814 X 283 (wk)
The state of Florida is a newly developing stronghold of US cricket, with two leagues, several independent clubs of international repute, and programs of exhibition cricket of first-class standard, courtesy of its cricket-playing neighbors in the Caribbean area. Florida could well become a future "center" for 1st-class cricket in the 21st century.
Central Florida Cricket Association
South Florida Cricket Association
PO Box 694034, Miami FL 33269
(home) 954-796-4182 (Beeper) 954-493-1539
The Atlanta-Georgia Cricket League, headquartered in Atlanta, has for some time been the citadel of cricket in the South. It has organized a strong league, and also participated in inter-regional cricket with Florida and Texas.
Atlanta-Georgia Cricket League
(H) 770 509 6959
(fx) 706 624 9674
In the middle of the Pacific ocean sits the Honolulu (Hawaii) Cricket Club, easily the most remote outpost of cricket in the Americas. Against the backdrop of Diamond Head, probably the most photographed extinct volcano in the world, members can be seen playing cricket in Kapiolani Park. The Club was established in 1893 when Hawaii was a territory of the United States. The Guinness Book of World Records names the Honolulu Cricket Club as the oldest sporting organization in the Pacific, and it is probably the only site for regular night cricket in the USA. In recent years, Hawaii has hosted teams from Australia, California, Canada, England, Hong Kong, New York and New Zealand.
Honolulu Cricket Club
4047 Kaimuki Avenue, Honolulu, Hawaii 96816
47-689 Hui Kelu Street # 3, Kaneohe, Hawaii 96744
The state of Illinois has the tradition of some of the oldest cricket played in the USA, outside the Eastern seaboard. A cricket League has existed in and around Chicago since the 1850s. The Midwest Cricket Conference is centered on Illinois but has teams in several neighboring states, has a strong following, many established teams, and an excellent Web site and record-keeping system.
Midwest Cricket Conference
3660 N Lakeshore Dr. 4707, Chicago IL 60613
11804 Smoke Valley Ct, Maryland Hts, MO 63043
For several years, the Michigan Cricket Association has been functioning in the Greater Detroit and the Great Lakes area as a flourishing league with several established clubs. It conducts two leagues; the Michigan Cricket Association League, and the Great Lakes Championship Trophy. (Note: the Web site, officers and their contact information are from the Detroit Metropolitan Cricket Club, one of the premier teams in the MCA).
Michigan Cricket Association
Iowa and Nebraska
Started in 1998, the Cedar Rapids Cricket League was the first league set up in the area. It disappeared, but there is a now a Des Moines Cricket Association which is started in 2000 to organize a cricket league around Ames, Des Moines AND with the Cedar Rapids area In 2001 it has also linked up with Omaha, and played triangula tournaments across the two states. Persons interested in cricket in Iowa AND Nebraska are invited to get in touch with Mr. Sura, at the phone number and e-mail address given below.
Des Moines Cricket Association
The Crescent City Cricket Club in New Orleans has actually existed since 1901. In recent times, a cricket league was organized around it, and efforts continue to be made to keep it going. New Orleans is also a destination for visiting teams from the Caribbean countries, Texas and California, and also hosts regional tournaments from time to time.
Crescent City Cricket League
One of the traditional areas of cricket in the USA, Massachusetts has seen cricket played since the 1600s, and also has (to cricketers) the dubious distinction of having created and sponsored early baseball! The present state league is inheritor to the classic cricket tradition, has obtained corporate sponsorship (one of the few US Leagues to do so), and also has a flourishing cricket scene in modern times.
Massachusetts State Cricket League
102 Radcliffe Street,Dorchester, MA 02121
81 Oak Street, Milton, MA 02186
With teams in and around the state, the Minnesota Cricket Association (MCA) is a well-established league in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area. The United Cricket Club is one of the leaders, with the Lions, Falcons and Guyam cricket clubs close behind. In past years, Simon Almaer of United CC, formerly of Oxford University, averaged over 100 runs, and opened batting for the US national team against Canada. MCA goals include improving their facilities and the standard of umpiring, and they will also try to develop a greater depth of quality cricketers.
Minnesota Cricket Association
2600 California Street NE, Minneapolis MN 55418
(h) 612-781-2397 (cl)612-618-8701
300 75th Ave N, Brooklyn Park, MN 55444
(h) 612-560-5978 (fx)612 -560-4829
Sudhir (Sid) Muthevi
218 Kipling St, Apt 207, St. Paul MN 55119
[h] 651-714-2383 [w]952-918-0912
3217 84th Ave N, Brooklyn Park, MN 55114
(h) 612 560 1227 (w)612 550 2661
Along with New York (see below), home to the largest concentrations of US immigrants from the Caribbean and South Asia, and therefore of dozens of cricket clubs catering to these populations. There are also Ivy League teams and traditional (unaffiliated) clubs...an interesting "kedgeree"! year 2000 information on the Garden State C A was unavailable, but the other association (NJCA) ceased operations this year and has been replaced by a new league, the Cricket League of New Jersey (CLNJ), which promises a dynamic program for the new millenium.
Garden State Cricket League
Cricket League of New Jersey
Hardah Ramnath Vice Prest
Ajay Sharma Secretary
Shad Razac Treasurer
See the comment under New Jersey (above). New York has a very large immigrant population, some of the most established leagues in the USA; two newspapers CRICKET International and the GLOBAL Cricketer , reporting on US Cricket activities; A New York Regional Committee overseeing inter-league activities, and many other organizations and individuals interested in promoting US cricket.
New York considers itself the "Mecca" of US cricket…(a title disputed by some other regions!)...and the Commonwealth Cricket League with 40 or so teams, founded in 1975, rivals Southern California CA as one of the largest cricket leagues in the country, while the 12-team Bangladeshi League is the only full semi-professional league in the USA.
Information on the general New York scene can be obtained from the New York Region cricket web site, which is http://members.aol.com/nycr1. New York Leagues which have their own web sites can be reached by clicking below; in some cases, individual officers can be reached by e-mail, as per the hyperlinks provided.
American Cricket League
John G Edwards Secretary
Bangladeshi Cricket League
Brooklyn Cricket League
Commonwealth Cricket League
5736 Mosholu Parkway
Riverdale, NY 10471
Eastern American Cricket Association
Metropolitan Cricket League
269 Parker Avenue
Clifton, NJ 07011
220-30 Jamaica Avenue
Queens Village, NY 11428
210 Chelsea Street
Floral Park, NY 11001
Nassau New York Cricket Association
Mushtaq Khan, Ramsaran Parasram
1st & 2nd Vice-Presidents
Vish Lekhram, Ryan Naraine
Genl & Recording Secretaries
New York Cricket League
PO Box 121, Bronx, NY 10456-9998
One of the most exciting developments in US cricket has been the establishment of a new league spanning the "dead zone" between New York/ New Jersey and Florida. Now in its fourth season and with 17 teams, The Mid-Atlantic League has filled an important gap in the cricket map of the USA, and continues to gain in participation and strength.
Mid-Atlantic Cricket Conference
President, Sanjay Pal
Secy, S. Nathella
919-465-0204 (h) 919 392-2975 (wk)
540-961-0175 (h) 540 557-1318 (wk)
The Nashville Cricket Association, in Nashville (TN), is starting with 4 teams in its inaugural season in 1999.
It is the first cricket association in the Volunteer state---another breakthrough for US cricket!
Nashville Cricket Association
Ayaz Ahmed, President
6776 Old Nashville Highway, Murfreesboro, TN 37129
Hemant Minocha, Vice President
2115 Ellington Circle, Nashville, TN 37211
Prakash Raghotamacher, Treasurer & Secy
511 Chesterfield Avenue #6C, Nashville, TN 37212
Under extremely difficult conditions in 1998, the SouthWest Conference has kept cricket alive in the US heartland, also known as Oz country! It has teams spread over a three-state area (Kansas, Oklahoma and East Texas), and has a long tradition dating back to the 1960s.
South West Cricket Conference
Dr. Arvind Bhakta
1101 Mockingbird Drive, Guthrie, OK 73044
Dr. Arvind Bhakta
The State of Texas boasts two cricket leagues---only Florida, New York and California can make a similar claim. The 18-team Houston Cricket League has been operating for a decade, and the newly formed North Texas Cricket Association has an equal number of enthusiastic cricketers. In 1998, Texas staged several major cricket events with what can only be described as frontier (cowboy) flair! There are a lot of special cricket events and tournaments taking place in the Longhorn State... this is a region to watch in the years ahead.
Houston Cricket League
201 589 6047 (h) 713 305 6159 (w)
Vice-Pres Dharmendra Patel
281 277 2774 (h) 281 460 6869 (w)
Secretary Danish Rizvi
713 394 1566(w)713 278 9948(w)
North Texas Cricket Association
214 879 5382
972 995 2167
972 513 1256
The nation's capital has long been the scene of one of the most diverse leagues in the country, and events that attract first-class guest players from the West Indies and South Asia.And now, as of yr 2000, they have an established Web site where details of their activities are at last available.
Washington Cricket League
Washington / Oregon / Idaho
Along with the Mid-Atlantic League (see above), the Pacific Northwest has seen the most spectacular expansion of cricket in the last decade. From a zero start, The Northwest Cricket League(NWCL) has become one of the best-organized leagues in the USA, with five cricket grounds and 9 teams in 1999. In the year 2000, the NWCL will experiment with a split-level fixture format which is believed to be the first of its kind in the USA.
NorthWest Cricket League
cell: 206 605 1912
home phone: 206 368 9833
And the point of putting all this in a post was?
Why the hell couldn't you have just used a link?
To be honest you're the one playing silly buggers richard. Your mistake re infinitely was a total stuff up and it would be appreciated if you could admit it. I know Mr Jones's opinion of you would rise if you could do so and as it is very low at the moment i think it is imperitive that you do something to raise it.Originally Posted by Richard
That was a bit of a waste of time cricketplayer
i wanted to prove richard wrong and i think it was worth it.Originally Posted by Buddhmaster
hahahahaha, ah that's good.Originally Posted by Pinkline Jones
No offence intended CP, but I found that amusing considering the other thread that is going about grammar.
You could have done it in a less ironic way tho.Originally Posted by cricket player
Originally Posted by cricket player
Yea if i could really be bothered i would find the two scorecards involving USA in the champions trophey.. USA a great force in cricket... don't mess with them. If USA cricket is thriving which you claim through all of those organisations how come not one of the USA players in the champions trophey was born in the USA.
ok richard it seems like i have to prove you wrong again.Originally Posted by Richard Rash
Clayton Lambert: not exactly what is meant by youth policy © Getty Images
USA's abysmal performance in the Champions Trophy has reopened the debate on whether the ICC is setting eligibility requirements that make it difficult, if not impossible, for the them to field competitive teams in international cricket?
Under current rules, almost all cricketers allowed to represent the USA must either be US citizens or have lived in the US for the better parts of seven consecutive years. Two players can play as "deemed nationals" if they have lived in the USA for four consecutive years. There are other details, but this is the essence of ICC's requirements; only citizens and long-standing residents are eligible to play for the USA, with perhaps a couple of players admitted as token immigrants who have "nearly" made the grade.
This leads to some rather strange situations. If you happen to be born in the USA (or for that matter Canada) it does not matter where you have lived or played cricket, you can play for Canada or the USA whenever you want to. Canada's John Davidson and Ian Billcliff play first-class cricket in Australia and New Zealand respectively, but were born in Canada and therefore qualify as citizens. In fact, the search is on for first-class cricketers anywhere in the world who happened to have been born in the USA, in the hope that there are US Davidsons out there waiting to be discovered.
Acquiring citizenship by naturalization (or even permanent residence) is a quite difficult matter in the USA and post- 9/11, the process has become a tortuous one. Some people have to wait five, 10 and even 15 years before they complete the procedures. In fact, there are people who have qualified for residence but simply do not bother to go through the paperwork because of the hassles involved.
The US situation is in stark contrast to other countries (such as the UAE) where citizenship could be acquired rapidly and instantly, and wholesale importation of professionals to pad team rolls was given as the reason for establishing the ICC eligibility requirements. Those issues simply do not apply to the USA, and are not likely to do so in the foreseeable future.
So, suppose you are a young first-class cricketer from Pakistan or Jamaica who is immigrating to, and wants to play cricket for, the USA. Assuming you are around 25, you could expect to be at least in your mid or late thirties before you could qualify for Team USA. Even worse, most of those years would be spent playing cricket at far lower than first-class levels. If you were especially brilliant, or earned the favour of US selection committees, you might earn a spot as a "deemed national" in four years—but with only two such spots available in every USA team, your chances would be remote.
The results are predictable and obvious. Some of the USA squad in the Champions Trophy were in their forties, persons whose best years of cricket were behind them but who were among the few to qualify. Steve Massiah, one of the best young players, barely made it on to the team as a "deemed national". The other "deemed" player was Clayton Lambert, the former West Indian Test cricketer. Leon Romero, a so-so player in Trinidad, was an automatic selection because he had been born in the USA.
On the other hand, a Trinidad junior player who had already immigrated to the USA chose to pass up the US cricket scene and returned to play in Trinidad because he did not wish to be sidelined for his best cricketing years. He might decide to play for the USA some time in the future, but certainly not now.
By an unofficial estimate, at least 80% of the best cricketers in the USA would not meet the eligibility requirements set up by the ICC. They may be bona fide residents or naturalized citizens, but have not spent the necessary four or seven years away from overseas first-class cricket; they are young, their skills are still sharp, and they could be coached far more effectively than a team of mostly superannuated pensioners.
If the ICC is really serious about raising the level of cricket within the USA to world-class ODI standards by 2007, as it declared two years ago, then it must relax its eligibility requirements, to allow the best US cricket talent to showcase itself. Otherwise, in future the USA will be trapped in a perpetual quarantine, unable to re-invent itself as it desperately needs to do
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