Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 35

Thread: In the wake of India's refusal to play Pakistan Should Pakistan Play them in The ICC or the WC?

  1. #1
    Cricket Spectator
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    2

    In the wake of India's refusal to play Pakistan Should Pakistan Play them in The ICC or the WC?


  2. #2
    Cricket Web XI Moderator lord_of_darkness's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Auckland , New Zealand
    Posts
    13,252
    lol If pakistan wants to refuse playing in icc or wc why do they bother playing cricket , india is doing a wrong thing by not playing pakistan , cricket should be played as cricket and political or any other interferences should be brought up in cricket
    Don L-o-d , Legion Of Doom

    Lords Lounge, Off Topic, The Happening Place in CW and OT.

    Co Chairman CWBCC - Cricketweb XI - CW Green | Manager of Hampshire CC - Wccc | Chairman of the Muralitharan Supporters Club ~MSC~ |

    Current Stats:
    2* - 17-4-35-3 - Season Ends..

    Current Record
    Batting - RHB: M:48 Inns:43 Runs:457 H/S:33* Ave:15.5 N.O:10
    Bowling - Off Spin: O:280 M:40 Runs:975 Wickets:104 Ave:9.3 S.R:15.6

  3. #3
    Cricket Spectator
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    12

  4. #4
    Cricket Spectator
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    12
    Thats right, Why single out cricket when both nations are playing at every other sport?


  5. #5
    Hall of Fame Member luckyeddie's Avatar
    Target Champion! Stuarts Xtreme Skateboarding Champion!
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Derby, England
    Posts
    17,752
    Sometimes, the use of sport for political ends is justified (now that's a pretty radical statement, and is not necessarily one to which I subscribe).
    When the target was a racist, fascist system such as existed in South Africa more than a decade ago, it's arguable that it is a good thing.
    When the use of sport is to glorify a system (USSR, East Germany, Chinese drug cheats assisted by former eastern bloc 'chemists', USA even), it's arguable that it is a bad thing.
    When the 'cause' is a petty border dispute, then in the big scale of things, MORE sporting links should be established, not LESS.

    I know that some people are going to scream at me for suggesting that the word 'petty' can be used to describe the dispute over Kashmir, but I actually think that borders, territories, yes, even countries at the end of the day are totally irrelevant in the big scale of things.
    The mentality of government is akin to a big cow pasture, filled with ants nests. Without it, you have no direction. With it, you establish an area near your nest. This area grows until it 'bumps into' another area near another nest. We then have a flipping good punch-up and refuse to play them in the ant Olympics.

    For crying out loud, we're all ants, aren't we? Let's just have one big nest. Then we only have to worry about the cows (sorry Hindus, it wasn't that good an analogy anyway, but you get my point?).


    Nigel Clough's Black and White Army, beating Forest away with 10 men

  6. #6
    U19 12th Man
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Trivandrum,India
    Posts
    260
    I very strongly disagree with you guys. Yes, sports can sometimes destroy barriers.. but that is not the case here.

    I don't think it is a very good thing to do when each day soldiers (and people) die on the border each day. Playing Cricket is certainly not going to help the situation in any small way...

    In the first place this war is wrong.. First India and Pakistan should stop the fighting and only then should they play cricket

    Playing against them on one part of the country and fighting against them on the other part is just not right..

    stop the war, then play cricket...
    "Life is just a demo... but I still can't afford the full version"

    For some fun visit my website - http://www.smilehouse.cjb.net
    * Software * Online Games * Pranks * Wallpapers * Source Code * and lots more :)

  7. #7
    Hall of Fame Member luckyeddie's Avatar
    Target Champion! Stuarts Xtreme Skateboarding Champion!
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Derby, England
    Posts
    17,752
    I apologise for what could be construed as me trivialising the matter, but it wasn't meant that way.

    Yes, people are dying - caught up in an affair that they wish would just go away.

    The 'representatives of the people' are to blame - whether elected or not. If they were forced to put gloves on and settle things by going 4 two-minute rounds, there wouldn't be any wars.

    One world. One people.

  8. #8
    Cricket Spectator
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    2
    I agree with you anoop but the point that radical raises needs to be addressed, why single out cricket? For that matter we should stop all bilateral sport. We continue to compete in other arenas and single out cricket.
    I just cant help but agree with eddie here that our representatives are to blame.

  9. #9
    School Boy/Girl Captain
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Posts
    138
    the government actually has a very simple answer to all those rambling on and on about cricket being singled out in the current situation.....

    Cricket is a game quite unique among all games.....it is a game where the spirit of toghetherness is most evident.I mean which other game can one think of where the 2 teams sit down toghether for lunch and tea....
    The game is meant to be played in a gentlemanly fashion with both teams expected to exhibit a sense of togetherness ( for lack of a better word )...
    I do not see how this can be accomplished when the armies of the 2 countries are eyeball to eyeball on the border...does one mean to say that it is irrelevant that our soldiers die at the border for us, and our players still say 'bravo,well done' when a player from the otherv team completes a century for example? are we to applaud them?

  10. #10
    U19 12th Man
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Trivandrum,India
    Posts
    260
    Yes I do agree that the reprensentatives are to blame. Sir Middle Stump, is right, about the togetherness. But I'm not sure whether Cricket should be singled out.

  11. #11
    Cricketer Of The Year Anil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Tattooine
    Posts
    9,831
    While all this fighting is happening on the Kashmir border, and soldiers are dying every day, there is little sense in playing any game against each other atleast on each other's soil.

    Both countries hardly have a good diplomatic relationship, why then cricket or any other game? If they are playing in a larger, prestigious competition, that too on neutral ground, there might be a case of playing each other(cos withdrawal would then hurt both the teams more than playing).

    We know that this useless and long drawn out war is a result of corrupt, self-seeking politicians and parties and religious fanaticism on both sides, but it has been going on in one form or another for over 50 years claiming lives in the tens of thousands and we just cannot turn a blind eye to it.
    Quote Originally Posted by FRAZ View Post
    very very close friend of mine is an Arab Christian and he speaks Arabic too and the visible hidden filth shows the mentality which may never change .....
    Quote Originally Posted by FRAZ View Post
    AAooouchh !!!!!
    I still remember that zipper accident of mine when I was in kindergarten ..... (Thing is OK I repeat thing is OK now )!!!

  12. #12
    School Boy/Girl Cricketer
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Posts
    89
    "Both countries hardly have a good diplomatic relationship, why then cricket or any other game?"
    Yeah, but do u know that US and Iran doesn't have diplomatic relationship for yrs , yet they have been playing football and wrestling!
    India play with Pak in tennis and other game, yet when it comes to cricket it refuses to play.It really doesn't make sense, there is more to it than just the Kashmir War, Uma Bharti is on record having said that a loss to Pak in Cricket is bad for the ppl's sentiments!

    What are u gonna get by not playing cricket? if its a national issue then u should avoid playing ALL sports and at every level.Playing cricket at major tour but not on home land is dumb and stupid.

  13. #13
    U19 12th Man
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Trivandrum,India
    Posts
    260
    US and Iran never directly fought in a war. Also thier soldiers are not on the border waiting for an order to shoot the guys beyond it.

    There is nothing about winning or loosing. I'm sure the current Pak team will beat India very comprehensively, but that's not the point.

    Playing cricket is not going to do anything to the situation and for that matter any sport.


  14. #14
    U19 Cricketer
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    utah,US
    Posts
    416
    Yorker you are right to a certain extent. However it is not a totally stupid decision..

    Cricket is the highest profile sport in india and pak by a distance. So politicians are tryin to take advantage.

    On the other hand not playing pak hits them where it hurts the most and with no one willing to play pak..i guess you cant blame us much.

    But lets stay of from politcs guys..
    "We've been doubling sales every 18 months. However, when you start from zero, it takes a long while." -- Stephen Yeo, a marketing director at Windows-terminal manufacturer Wyse, explaining his company's less-than-meteoric rise, to ZDNet UK

  15. #15
    School Boy/Girl Cricketer
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Posts
    89

    Anoop--- The relationship b/w Iran and US is much worse than that b/w India and Pak.Many Americans have been killed by Iranians and Iraninan by American or US allies.Just coz they aren't fighting on the border doesn't change the scenario much! Recall Eng and Arg playing football while their was a war going on b/w them! Also , winning and losing is part of the game, u feel it the same as i do but ur POlitician take it differently!


    Scorpio-- India have not played in Pak since ages, things were different b/f 9/11.
    Now that the situation on border have cooled down, Indian foreign minister came upo with another excuse when asked about resuming cricket ties, he said that we have no objection to it but ur players won't be safe in Pak! U can always come up with another excuse.



Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •