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    Best Glovemen

    with all the recent talk about gilchrist and patel's wicketkeeping over in india, and what possibly is the deterioration of the art of wicketkeeping as we see more "keeper/batsman" taking the place of the traditional wicketkeeper, i was interested in seeing who people thought was the best gloveman in the world, or at least within your own nation.

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    I haven't seen a great deal of Indian 'keepers, however, Dinesh Karthick looked very good in the Mumbai Test. A very difficult pitch to make a 'keeping debut on as well.

    Taibu certainly looks very natural behind the stumps, but I'd like to see him keeping to some quality spin.

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    Up until retirement it was quite easily Jack Russell.

    Now, there isnt really one standout. Read, Taibu, Latif, Jayawardene, Seccombe in no particular order with an even bigger tranche of specialist keepers (inc Gilly, Flower, Sangakkara, Browne, Boucher, Karthik), followed by the batsmen who keep (Jones, McCullum, Moin, Baugh), then the real part timers (Dravid, Younis Khan, Tresco, Langer, Maher).
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    wade seccombe has always been a good keeper in domestic cricket, but i always thought that darren berry was the best with the gloves until he retired last year. his work up to the stumps to genuinely quick bowlers was extraordinary.

    Taibu certainly looks very natural behind the stumps, but I'd like to see him keeping to some quality spin.
    ray price wasn't the worst spinner.

    one out of left field is the dutch keeper at the 2003 world cup (cant be bothered finding out his name). even though the bowlers were only sending them down at 120km/h, to be keeping up to the new ball is no mean feat. good to see some talent coming out of the minnows


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    Up until retirement it was quite easily Jack Russell.
    you think he was that much better than healy? healy went through three years without missing a chance in test cricket

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    Healy retired before Russell.. , and before I took such an intense interest in world cricket. My views of Healy never got past "Aussie therefore don't like"

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    haha, i'll pay you that. i've grown to dislike him since he became a commentator, and now russell's an artist, IIRC. neways, thats for another thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox
    wade seccombe has always been a good keeper in domestic cricket, but i always thought that darren berry was the best with the gloves until he retired last year. his work up to the stumps to genuinely quick bowlers was extraordinary.



    ray price wasn't the worst spinner.

    one out of left field is the dutch keeper at the 2003 world cup (cant be bothered finding out his name). even though the bowlers were only sending them down at 120km/h, to be keeping up to the new ball is no mean feat. good to see some talent coming out of the minnows
    Holland's keeper is their number 10/11, Jeroen Smits. He took four catches and made one stumping (Namibian Sarel Burger off the spinner Adeel Raja).

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    Healy is the greatest wicket keeper to play the game and Adam Gilchrist is quickly becoming the greatest ever wicket keeper/batsman.

    Secombe v Berry - give me Secombe anyday, his handling of MacGill & Warne on the odd occasion he has played with them has been spectacular, his ability to stand up to the quicker medium pacers in Hopes and Dale and then to the medium quicks like Fleming and Noffke have been truely spectacular to watch. And while he is not perfect, he takes 95%+ of his chances which is more than what you can ask for from your wicket keeper.

    Although I cannot comment on other domestic wicket keepers, IMO Secombe would be better than all the international cricketers, and while good with the bat he does't have the same ability (with the bat) as a Gilchrist or Boucher and possibly soon McCallum (sp?), and to a lesser extent Jacobs and Taibu and therefore cannot really press his claims ahead of Gilchrist, obviously.
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    berry did keep to warne on regular occassions, and far from disgraced himself. i agree, seccombe is definently the best wicketkeeper going around at the moment, but having watched berry perform stumpings off matthew inness bouncers, i'm tempted to believe that berry was the better gloveman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    Holland's keeper is their number 10/11, Jeroen Smits. He took four catches and made one stumping (Namibian Sarel Burger off the spinner Adeel Raja).
    He was even chosen in the Tournament XI by either CricInfo or the BBC Sport website. I think it was the BBC.

    Dutch fielding in general was very good during the tournament.

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    I think Gilly is a fine gloveman, but I am probably just bias.

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    Gilchrist, Sangakkara, Boucher and Taibu all seem pretty good to me. For the most part keepers are really only noticed when they make errors, and those four players make very few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    Up until retirement it was quite easily Jack Russell.

    Now, there isnt really one standout. Read, Taibu, Latif, Jayawardene, Seccombe in no particular order with an even bigger tranche of specialist keepers (inc Gilly, Flower, Sangakkara, Browne, Boucher, Karthik), followed by the batsmen who keep (Jones, McCullum, Moin, Baugh), then the real part timers (Dravid, Younis Khan, Tresco, Langer, Maher).
    Jacobs nowhere in the piece?

    IMO the top two glovemen in the world of internationals are Taibu and Read, though neither may play much international cricket if any in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joao_Quinto
    I think Gilly is a fine gloveman, but I am probably just bias.
    Gilchrist in my estimation is an adequate gloveman and a far more than adequate batsman. I reserve fine for the likes of Tatenda Taibu, Chris Read and Dinesh Ramdin ().

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