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Hoggy31

International Captain
Im looking for a new bat and im thinking about buying this one, but i dont know what this means. "The unique contoured design of the Sword creates a forgiving shape for off*-centre hits"
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
Off centre... probably means "you can hit it off the square"..

My reccomendation is a Gunn and Moore Purist.. Dunno if you can get them in Aus...
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
THe 'forgiving shape for off-centre hits' mean that the bat is shaped in such a way that all hits are off-centre and you should be forgiven for thinking it's you! :p
 

deeps

International 12th Man
a larger middle, so that even if u dont middle it (off centre) , you still get a decent amount of power.....get a gray nicholls, they are the best
 

deeps

International 12th Man
well, i use the kookaburra kahuna, as i'm sponsored by kookaburra. and it's a sweet awesome bat. most of my team mates use gray nicholls though, and they are also very very good. i dont rate GM that highly though, but i've only ever tried one. not very popular in aus, or WA anway

eDIt: just wanted to add, that i've been upgraded to full sponsorship by kookaburra! :D
 
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Langeveldt

Soutie
deeps said:
well, i use the kookaburra kahuna, as i'm sponsored by kookaburra. and it's a sweet awesome bat. most of my team mates use gray nicholls though, and they are also very very good. i dont rate GM that highly though, but i've only ever tried one. not very popular in aus, or WA anway

eDIt: just wanted to add, that i've been upgraded to full sponsorship by kookaburra! :D
You for real... Youve got to be seriously good to be sponsered by a major manufacturer. Especially Kookaburra... Im partially sponsered by a minor one at the moment..
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Hoggy31 said:
Im looking for a new bat and im thinking about buying this one, but i dont know what this means. "The unique contoured design of the Sword creates a forgiving shape for off*-centre hits"
Depends on what sort of a contour it is ?

About 25 years ago a major bat manufacturer (I forget who) had launched a bat with the sides being much thicker and had loped off from the middle (all along the length not going upto the toe of course). This was touted to spread the sweet spot wider along the width of the bat. Didnt last much in those days as a fad

Contours , besides being along the length or width (as in the above case) can be both at the back (always but to varying degrees) and at the front (less rarely very pronounced). Those at the back affect the impact of the bat on ball (the spring) but those on the front also affect which direction the ball travels(upwards, downwards or straight) immediately after coming off the face of the bat.
 

deeps

International 12th Man
Langeveldt said:
You for real... Youve got to be seriously good to be sponsered by a major manufacturer. Especially Kookaburra... Im partially sponsered by a minor one at the moment..
until last week, i was on partial sponsorship with kookaburra, where i could get the kahuna for $100. (it retails at around 530). I was limited to one per year.

I am still limited to one per year, but i get the bat for nothing now. I get a free set of pads gloves etc. as well per year!

It's a continuation from a sponsorship i won when i was younger, and was a bowling all rounder. i've since had major shoulder injuries, and dont bowl much at all anymore, and become the number 5 for the waca 2nd's team.

Sponsorship isn't that hard to get from a major company, i was lucky and happened to be looking for a sponsor at the time and a kookaburra dude was watching us train... Just talked to him and he said he'd look into it (never thought i'd hear from him again)....took him about 4 months to reply, and yeah! it's all good!
 

deeps

International 12th Man
SJS said:
Depends on what sort of a contour it is ?

About 25 years ago a major bat manufacturer (I forget who) had launched a bat with the sides being much thicker and had loped off from the middle (all along the length not going upto the toe of course). This was touted to spread the sweet spot wider along the width of the bat. Didnt last much in those days as a fad
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are you talking about the gray nicholls scoop?The scoop will increase the size of the sweet spot by displacing the weight of the bat more evenly through the blade. It will also make the bat pick up weight feel lighter. The amount of actual bat weight taken out from the scoop is only minimal but it will make it feel lighter.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
deeps said:
until last week, i was on partial sponsorship with kookaburra, where i could get the kahuna for $100. (it retails at around 530). I was limited to one per year.

I am still limited to one per year, but i get the bat for nothing now. I get a free set of pads gloves etc. as well per year!

It's a continuation from a sponsorship i won when i was younger, and was a bowling all rounder. i've since had major shoulder injuries, and dont bowl much at all anymore, and become the number 5 for the waca 2nd's team.

Sponsorship isn't that hard to get from a major company, i was lucky and happened to be looking for a sponsor at the time and a kookaburra dude was watching us train... Just talked to him and he said he'd look into it (never thought i'd hear from him again)....took him about 4 months to reply, and yeah! it's all good!
Thats great Deeps. Congrats.

Bad about your shoulder injury though. What did you bowl, leg spin, leg cutters, in swing family of deliveries ?

Why do you say you have become number five(though that maybe the number you bat at today). Its not considered a specialist position these days, is it ?
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
deeps said:
are you talking about the gray nicholls scoop?The scoop will increase the size of the sweet spot by displacing the weight of the bat more evenly through the blade. It will also make the bat pick up weight feel lighter. The amount of actual bat weight taken out from the scoop is only minimal but it will make it feel lighter.
Yes, perhaps it was Grey Nicholls. Its a long time in the past for me :)

I did not find too much of a differnce. For me all these new bats (new in the 70's) were on the heavier side and I prefered to go to a manufacturer's factory and choose a bat there.

In those days bats were generally much lighter and had to be oiled and played in.

I myself played with a very light bat (really light) and one really had to be good at bat selection and work hard on the bat after buying it (and lucky to an extent) to get a bat with a great 'stroke' (as we called it then) and still be light. Balance was always the first thing that mattered to me and I was very fussy about that. Balance and the number of lines (years/age) on the face of the bat.
 

deeps

International 12th Man
SJS said:
Thats great Deeps. Congrats.

Bad about your shoulder injury though. What did you bowl, leg spin, leg cutters, in swing family of deliveries ?

Why do you say you have become number five(though that maybe the number you bat at today). Its not considered a specialist position these days, is it ?
i bowled pace...extremely wayward pace :P, i was always told i was putting too much strain on my back and shoulders, but i (now shamefullY)disregarded it! I used to bat at 7, but now i've transformed into a number 5. We have specialist batsman up till 6 in our team, the number 7 is an all rounder etc. We have that luxury because our keeper bats at 3, in the Shahid Afridi type mould..(hit out or get ouT!)

theyve tried convincing me to bat at 3, but i've tried batting there in 5 innings,and didn't make more than 21.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
deeps said:
i bowled pace...extremely wayward pace :P, i was always told i was putting too much strain on my back and shoulders, but i (now shamefullY)disregarded it! I used to bat at 7, but now i've transformed into a number 5. We have specialist batsman up till 6 in our team, the number 7 is an all rounder etc. We have that luxury because our keeper bats at 3, in the Shahid Afridi type mould..(hit out or get ouT!)

theyve tried convincing me to bat at 3, but i've tried batting there in 5 innings,and didn't make more than 21.
Yes. Number 3 is a specialist position. But 4 and five are the same with the better bat going at 4. So I suppose you have a chance to graduate to that spot. :)

Hmmm
. Shame about your bowling. I have seen it happening to a lot of young bowlers. Its very common. Same is true for batsmen with everyone trying to become an Afridi.

I think there is a lot of bad influence of not just the one day game but much more about the way the game is being marketed, the hype, the glamour around speed guns, the macho thing of 'scaring' a batsman instead of just bowling him out etc.

The press, commentators etc have not helped. And it is shaping the way the cricket fan thinks and when it is young cricket fans it means future cricketers. Sad !

I think you should still take uo bowling though. Off spin being the best option. If you bowl with a clean orthodox action, it will have minimum strain and you can be pretty useful to the team.
 

deeps

International 12th Man
SJS said:
Yes. Number 3 is a specialist position. But 4 and five are the same with the better bat going at 4. So I suppose you have a chance to graduate to that spot. :)

Hmmm
. Shame about your bowling. I have seen it happening to a lot of young bowlers. Its very common. Same is true for batsmen with everyone trying to become an Afridi.

I think there is a lot of bad influence of not just the one day game but much more about the way the game is being marketed, the hype, the glamour around speed guns, the macho thing of 'scaring' a batsman instead of just bowling him out etc.

The press, commentators etc have not helped. And it is shaping the way the cricket fan thinks and when it is young cricket fans it means future cricketers. Sad !

I think you should still take uo bowling though. Off spin being the best option. If you bowl with a clean orthodox action, it will have minimum strain and you can be pretty useful to the team.
yeah, i wouldn't mind batting at 4, but there's a very good batsman at 4, and i'm not gonna be displacing him anyyyytime sooN! no bowling at all, for at least a year, including off spin, or anything, so that sucks too! i could bowl ok line and length if required too, but i would lose quiet alot of pace. My pace was quick enough to worry most batsman (i was the tail demolisher, who didn't bowl till the 6th batsman was in).

But back then, i didn't take my cricket that seriously, and it didn't really matter. it's only now that it really bothers me how i can't bowl etc.
 

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