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    *Official* Indian Domestic Season 2004/2005

    The domestic season about to start very soon so lets discuss it


    here are the fixtures for the Ranji Trophy

    Elite Group:
    Group "A" Group "B"
    Mumbai Tamil Nadu
    Bengal Maharashtra
    Andhra Punjab
    Railways Baroda
    Karnataka Uttar Pradesh
    Madhya Pradesh Hyderabad
    Gujarat Assam
    Delhi

    Dates Between Venue

    First Round:

    07-10 Nov Railways v Mumbai Delhi
    07-10 Nov Bengal v Karnataka Kolkatta
    07-10 Nov Gujarat v Delhi Gujarat
    07-10 Nov Andhra v Madhya Pradesh Andhra
    07-10 Nov Punjab v Uttar Pradesh Punjab
    07-10 Nov Hyderabad v Tamil Nadul Hyderabad
    07-10 Nov Assam v Baroda Guwahati

    Second Round:

    16-19 Nov Mumbai v Madhya Pradesh Mumbai
    16-19 Nov Railways v Bengal Delhi
    16-19 Nov Karnataka v Gujarat Bangalore
    16-19 Nov Delhi v Andhra Delhi
    16-19 Nov Punjab v Assam Punjab
    16-19 Nov Uttar Pradesh v Tamil Nadu Kanpur
    16-19 Nov Maharashtra v Baroda Pune

    Third Round:

    25-28 Nov Mumbai v Andhra Mumbai
    25-28 Nov Delhi v Railways Delhi
    25-28 Nov Bengal v Gujarat Kolkatta
    25-28 Nov Karnataka v Madhya Pradesh Bangalore
    25-28 Nov Punjab v Baroda Punjab
    25-28 Nov Uttar Pradesh v Assam Kanpur
    25-28 Nov Hyderabad v Maharashtra Hyderabad

    Fourth Round:

    04-07 Dec Bengal v Mumbai Kolkatta
    04-07 Dec Gujarat v Railways Gujarat
    04-07 Dec Karnataka v Andhra Bangalore
    04-07 Dec Delhi v Madhya Pradesh Delhi
    04-07 Dec Punjab v Maharashtra Punjab
    04-07 Dec Hyderabad v Baroda Hyderabad
    04-07 Dec Assam v Tamil Nadu Guwahati

    Fifth Round:

    13-16 Dec Mumbai v Gujarat Mumbai
    13-16 Dec Madhya Pradesh v Railways Indore
    13-16 Dec Andhra v Bengal Andhra
    13-16 Dec Delhi v Karnataka Delhi
    13-16 Dec Tamil Nadu v Punjab Chennai
    13-16 Dec Hyderabad v Uttar Pradesh Hyderabad
    13-16 Dec Maharashtra v Assam Pune

    Sixth Round:

    22-25 Dec Mumbai v Karnataka Mumbai
    22-25 Dec Andhra v Railways Andhra
    22-25 Dec Bengal v Delhi Kolkatta
    22-25 Dec Gujarat v Madhya Pradesh Gujarat
    22-25 Dec Hyderabad v Punjab Hyderabad
    22-25 Dec Maharashtra v Uttar Pradesh Pune
    22-25 Dec Baroda v Tamil Nadu Baroda

    Seventh Round:

    31 Dec-03 Jan Mumbai v Delhi Mumbai
    31 Dec-03 Jan Karnataka v Railways Bangalore
    31 Dec-03 Jan Bengal v Madhya Pradesh Kolkatta
    31 Dec-03 Jan Andhra v Gujarat Andhra
    31 Dec-03 Jan Tamil Nadu v Mahasrashtra Chennai
    31 Dec-03 Jan Hyderabad v Assam Hyderabad
    31 Dec-03 Jan Baroda v Uttar Pradesh Baroda

    Plate Group:
    Group "A" Group "B"
    Orissa Haryana
    Himachal Pradesh Tripura
    Kerala Vidarbha
    Saurashtra Services
    Jammu & Kashmir Goa
    Bihar Rajasthan

    Dates Between Venue

    First Round:

    16-19 Nov Jammu & Kashmir v Orissa Jammu
    16-19 Nov Kerala v Himchal Pradesh Kerala
    16-19 Nov Saurashtra v Bihar Rajkot
    16-19 Nov Tripura v Haryana Tripura
    16-19 Nov Services v Goa Delhi
    16-19 Nov Vidarbha v Rajasthan Nagpur

    Second Round:

    25-28 Nov Kerala v Orissa Kerala
    25-28 Nov Bihar v Jammu & Kashmir Bihar
    25-28 Nov Himachal Pradesh v Saurashtra Himachal Pradesh
    25-28 Nov Haryana v Goa Haryana
    25-28 Nov Vidarbha v Tripura Nagpur
    25-28 Nov Services v Rajasthan Delhi

    Third Round:

    04-07 Dec Himachal Pradesh v Orissa Himachal Pradesh
    04-07 Dec Bihar v Kerala Bihar
    04-07 Dec Jammu & Kashmir v Saurashtra Jammu
    04-07 Dec Services v Haryana Delhi
    04-07 Dec Goa v Vidarbha Goa
    04-07 Dec Rajasthan v Tripura Rajasthan

    Fourth Round:

    13-16 Dec Bihar v Orissa Bihar
    13-16 Dec Jammu & Kashmir v Himachal Pradesh Jammu
    13-16 Dec Kerala v Saurashtra Kerala
    13-16 Dec Vidarbha v Haryana Nagpur
    13-16 Dec Tripura v Services Tripura
    13-16 Dec Rajasthan v Goa Rajasthan

    Fifth Round:

    22-25 Dec Saurashtra v Orissa Rajkot
    22-25 Dec Bihar v Himachal Pradesh Bihar
    22-25 Dec Jammu & Kashmir v Kerala Jammu
    22-25 Dec Rajasthan v Haryanan Rajasthan
    22-25 Dec Services v Vidarbha Delhi
    22-25 Dec Tripura v Goa Tripura


    Challenger Series

    07 Feb India v India 'A' Mumbai
    08 Feb India v India 'B' Mumbai
    09 Feb India 'A' v India 'B' Mumbai
    10 Feb Final Mumbai


    Deodhar Trophy

    23 Jan Central Zone v South Zone Pune
    23 Jan East Zone v West Zone Mumbai
    26 Jan East Zone v North Zone Baroda
    26 Jan South Zone v West Zone Mumbai
    29 Jan Central Zone v North Zone Pune
    29 Jan East Zone v South Zone Ahmedabad
    01 Feb Central Zone v East Zone Rajkot
    01 Feb North Zone v West Zone Baroda
    04 Feb North Zone v South Zone Ahmedabad
    04 Feb Central Zone v West Zone Rajkot


    Duleep Trophy

    25-28 Feb North Zone v West Zone Central Zone
    25-28 Feb East Zone v Visiting Team Central Zone
    04-07 Mar South Zone v West Zone Central Zone
    04-07 Mar Central Zone v Visiting Team Central Zone
    11-14 Mar North Zone v South Zone Central Zone
    11-14 Mar Central Zone v East Zone Central Zone
    18-22 Mar Final Central Zone



    I think the Ranji trophy will be taken by mumbai again...they look to be a strong side...your thoughts?
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    Delhi is in a shambles. They have 2 coaches, both dont see eye-to-eye with each other... I wonder how they will do, though Jadeja might bcome the captain which I think would be good for them...
    Mumbai on the other hand have their squad ready and their training camp is already under way or is about to..
    I don't know anything about the other teams, may be some one could fill in..
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    Mumbai vs Railways vs Karnataka vs Delhi(maybe) to watch out for in group A

    Tamil Nadu vs Punjab vs Hyderabad in Group B .
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    Quote Originally Posted by viktor
    Delhi is in a shambles. They have 2 coaches, both dont see eye-to-eye with each other... I wonder how they will do, though Jadeja might bcome the captain which I think would be good for them...
    Mumbai on the other hand have their squad ready and their training camp is already under way or is about to..
    I don't know anything about the other teams, may be some one could fill in..
    Delhi Cricket is full of politics. A little too much. Chopra and Gambhir will be key players, being the best opening combination in Ranji. Chopra must get back to doing what's best- scoring runs, though he is useful as a defensive opener. He's definitely one of their better players, and one of the most seasoned. Gambhir, on the other hand, throws his wicket away a little too early. He is an attacker, but must control his strokeplay. The rest of the batsmen are just average, and Mithun Manhas may have a lot to do. Bhandari is definitely a bowler to watch, and he has good support from Negi and Gill. Rajat Bhatia is also a crucial player, being a top-6 batsman and a swing bowler. No point getting Jadeja back.

    Mumbai will have to get back to the kind of form that won them two consecutive Ranji titles. Vinayak Mane and Wasim Jaffer can score a lot of runs at the top, though Mane has to stay at the crease longer. Bahutule and Powar have to take the bulk of wickets, though one can also watch for the pace duo of Salvi and Munaf. The advantage of Bahutule and especially Powar is the batting- Powar has rescued them from tough spots repeatedly. One thing is certain- Chandrakant Pandit's side won't take any opposition for granted.

    The key players for TN are Balaji, Sriram, Ramesh, Suresh and especially Dinesh Karthik. Dinesh is not only a good keeper ( he holds on to catches and is fast behind the stumps), but can get lots of runs. He is in the frame for national selection and must take advantage of that.

    Railways are a very average batting and bowling side, but they have balance. Murali Karthik, thei strike bowler, can bat quite well. Another key player is JP Yadav. He has been performing well with bat and ball, even as selectors ignore him.

    Not much is heard of the Punjab side, though with Harbhajan and Gagandeep, they are a strong bowling side. Yuvraj should get back in and score some runs. Come to think of it, lots of runs. Sodhi should get runs and support his strike bowlers, to get back into the frame for national selection.
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    I think Andhra would be the surprise package this time with MSK Prasad, Venugopal Rao and Gyaneshwar Rao playing crucial roles. It's a pity for players like Prasad playing for weak sides and trying to make a comeback b'coz their teams normally don't cross the league stages and so their performances don't get the due recognition. MSK has been averaging above 50 in the last 2 seasons but he is hardly being mentioned . Here is a nice interview of him

    http://www.*************.com/mskinterview.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by V Reddy
    I think Andhra would be the surprise package this time with MSK Prasad, Venugopal Rao and Gyaneshwar Rao playing crucial roles. It's a pity for players like Prasad playing for weak sides and trying to make a comeback b'coz their teams normally don't cross the league stages and so their performances don't get the due recognition. MSK has been averaging above 50 in the last 2 seasons but he is hardly being mentioned . Here is a nice interview of him

    http://www.*************.com/mskinterview.html
    When I used to post on SportNetwork ICF and the now defunct BT-Asian Cricket, I had mentioned his name as the best batting wicketkeeper, since he was in great form then. However, with the likes of Thilak Naidu, Dinesh Karthik and Mahen Dhoni in the scene, he has been left out. His keeping is not far worse than Parthiv's but was a disappointment in Australia. His batting was crucial for Andhra, and he did a lot of good for his team as a batsman. But Andhra's main problem is their bowling, which is not of the same quality as of Mumbai, Delhi, TN and Punjab.

    Starting this thread was a great idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjun

    Starting this thread was a great idea.
    Yes. I agree.

    How many of you guys have seen Indian players (other than those who are already internationals) playing and which ?

    PS. I also say this because discussing 'purely' on statistics (in the case of domestic cricket that can mean absolutely anything since the quality of oposition is a huge unknown) and media reports is a bit 'incomplete' (to put it mildly and for want of a beter term).

    I do understand that for those of you who do not reside in the country (and even for most who do) this is the only means but then we cant really become very sensitive about these arguments knowing both what the statistics can mean and that most of the media either doesnt cover the domestic matches or does so in perfunctory manner.

    It would be great, however, to hear from those who have either seen these boys in action or when discussing their performances against known opposition. Thats why for most people performances in under 19 and 'A' team matches are more meaningful since they are covered by telecasts more often.
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    I havent seen Indian domestic on TV I think...but I was in Mumbai watching a game between mumbai and someone like 4 years ago...was as fun to watch as internationals

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    watching the pura and ing cup in australia and comparing it to Ranji Trophy you can clearly see the wide rift in technique of both the batsman and bowlers only from viewing a few Ranji Trophy matches. The pace of the indian bowlers is a laughing point aswell in seems they are bowling 20 km/h slower than the aussies

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    Quote Originally Posted by krishneelz
    watching the pura and ing cup in australia and comparing it to Ranji Trophy you can clearly see the wide rift in technique of both the batsman and bowlers only from viewing a few Ranji Trophy matches. The pace of the indian bowlers is a laughing point aswell in seems they are bowling 20 km/h slower than the aussies
    Indian bowling is not about pace

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    hahaha maybe it should be

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    Quote Originally Posted by krishneelz
    hahaha maybe it should be
    No it doesnt...not every team has to be good at everything...Indians are good with spins...and thats good enough to get wickets

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    well if they get a few quicks they mite be better and maybe even beat australia

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    Quote Originally Posted by krishneelz
    well if they get a few quicks they mite be better and maybe even beat australia
    you cant blame India for that...it is up to the players to bowl the style they are best at...and most of them are at spinning...but ya you are right...maybe fast bowlers with spin is what India needs to beat Australia

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    Since we are on it, has anybody seen Munaf play??
    May be those of you in Mumbai might have. I would really like to know if he is as good as he is made out to be.

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