20/20 cricket - Page 2

Samuel_Vimes · 26-10-2004, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Casson

I don't think Hogg is cut out for the Australian team. 20/20, ODI, test, whatever.

He'd be better than Brett Lee, at least...

Mr Casson · 26-10-2004, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes

He'd be better than Brett Lee, at least...

Not in OD cricket. Brett Lee's pace would pick up a few wickets when the batsmen are going for him. He can go for runs, but in OD cricket he picks up wickets. Hogg can get absolutely slaughtered, I've seen it too often.

And I assume that these things would just be amplified in Twenty20 cricket.

age_master · 26-10-2004, 04:11 PM

brett lee bats better than hogg alot of teh time too

marc71178 · 26-10-2004, 04:20 PM

Oh yes, I can just see Brett Lee coming in at 6 or 7 and averaging 66 in County Cricket

Mr Casson · 26-10-2004, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

Oh yes, I can just see Brett Lee coming in at 6 or 7 and averaging 66 in County Cricket

Different games.

Oh yes, I can just see Hoggy coming in needing to blast a six to win with jack all time remaining to do it. The fact is, at Twenty20 level, Lee probably would be just as good if not better than Hogg.

marc71178 · 27-10-2004, 01:25 AM

Hogg did score a very rapid 50, but the rest of the time was a complete reverse of his CC form.

Mind you, he made up for it with the ball:

13 wickets @ 10.92 with an economy of 6.50...

Arjun · 27-10-2004, 05:32 AM

Would 20-20 cricket be good for India?

Linda · 27-10-2004, 05:51 AM

My opinion would be no, actually. I cant beleive that those grounds in India at the moment arnt bursting at the seams. This current series has been built up so much, and even though theyre not doing spectaculary, the support for Test cricket seems to be dwindling. They should focus on that, I reckon.

Having said that, I dont live in India and I dont know much about sponsering.

Arjun · 27-10-2004, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Linda

My opinion would be no, actually. I cant beleive that those grounds in India at the moment arnt bursting at the seams. This current series has been built up so much, and even though theyre not doing spectaculary, the support for Test cricket seems to be dwindling. They should focus on that, I reckon.

Having said that, I dont live in India and I dont know much about sponsering.

The game will lose a lot of fans at the end of this series, though 20-20 cannot make up for that. But sponsorship and ticket sales are no issue.

But the way the game is played needs to change. All Indian batsmen are conservative. They're not too keen on hitting the big shots, and would rather play out a few dot balls. Not to mention the batting of the bowlers is nothing to write home about. This format would make good hard-hitting basmen and good hitters from the bowlers. Not to mention, on special high-bounce surfaces, with tennis balls, tearaway fast bowlers would benefit.

marc71178 · 27-10-2004, 06:49 AM

And that would improve their Test efforts, how?

Arjun · 27-10-2004, 07:02 AM

If it worked for England, why can't it work for India?

Neil Pickup · 27-10-2004, 07:05 AM

Hardly any of the Test side have played any significant amount of Twenty20 cricket.

England's success is built on stability.

marc71178 · 27-10-2004, 07:06 AM

The improvement in England's Test performances is not because of Twenty20!

Scaly piscine · 27-10-2004, 08:13 AM

Average fast bowling gets caned all around the park in 20 over cricket, bad fast bowling gets annihilated (10+ an over easily). Spin bowling has been very effective so far, but that could be more to do with the English county players than the bowling itself. I do think it'll in the very least improving death bowling/batting in ODIs, but as England players haven't played much 20 over cricket it's difficult to say. South Africa's ODI team have played more 20 over cricket domestically, but they're not a very good advert for it at the moment.

One last thing...

Name Mat O M R W Ave Best 4w 5w SR Econ Team
A McGrath 4 7.5 0 98 1 98.00 1-46 - - 47.0 12.51 YORKS

marc71178 · 27-10-2004, 11:09 AM

Why are you picking on him?

He's marmite.

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27-10-2004, 01:25 AM	#21 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	Hogg did score a very rapid 50, but the rest of the time was a complete reverse of his CC form. Mind you, he made up for it with the ball: 13 wickets @ 10.92 with an economy of 6.50...

27-10-2004, 06:49 AM	#25 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	And that would improve their Test efforts, how?

27-10-2004, 07:02 AM	#26 (permalink)
Arjun Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,837	If it worked for England, why can't it work for India?

27-10-2004, 07:06 AM	#28 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	The improvement in England's Test performances is not because of Twenty20!

27-10-2004, 08:13 AM	#29 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,529	Average fast bowling gets caned all around the park in 20 over cricket, bad fast bowling gets annihilated (10+ an over easily). Spin bowling has been very effective so far, but that could be more to do with the English county players than the bowling itself. I do think it'll in the very least improving death bowling/batting in ODIs, but as England players haven't played much 20 over cricket it's difficult to say. South Africa's ODI team have played more 20 over cricket domestically, but they're not a very good advert for it at the moment. One last thing... Name Mat O M R W Ave Best 4w 5w SR Econ Team A McGrath 4 7.5 0 98 1 98.00 1-46 - - 47.0 12.51 YORKS

27-10-2004, 11:09 AM	#30 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	Why are you picking on him? He's marmite.

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