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Vassell = the biggest disgrace since rikki clarke!!
Can't say that surprises me then.
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So obvious that he has concentrated on his batting so much to the detriment of his obvious natural keeping skills. And having been a keeper whenever I have played, albeit a million levels lower, I know that it is something that you just cannot do to a decent level straightaway without having done the hard work required in practice...
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However, for someone like Karthik who has spent the majority of his career as a keeper, surely at 23 he cant be finished? I mean if he trained for a few weeks and got some practice he would be perfectly fine in a few weeks. At the end of the day, keeping to spinners and pulling off spectacular catches has less to do with work ethic than it does with reflexes, much like fielding at short leg. You either have it or you dont. Its not like batting or bowling where you have to play yourself back into form.
I don't think Dhoni can be called a poor keeper anymore. He has improved a lot with the gloves since 2005.
He will never be a brilliant keeper but I think he is competent enough to be test match standard.
And regrading his batting, he still averages more than pretty much any other Indian keeper that has played test cricket.
Yes, he's no Gilchrist....but seriously, does India have a clearly superior option ? Dhoni's keeping is decent and I'm not convinced yet that Karthik is a whole lot better with the bat.
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I've gotta put my hand up now and say BJ Watling. He didn't have much pedigree when he came onto the scene: a mediocre player in a poor u19 side, and his first couple of seasons in first class cricket didn't light the world on fire either. When he took his turn on the NZ opener merry-go-round I thought he looked utterly forgettable, and wasn't at all surprised to see him do dreadfully against Australia and India in 2010. Nothing obviously wrong with his technique, it just seemed like he was playing out of his league. I predicted he'd go the way of Flynn and Redmond, and be remembered only because of his tmsofa moniker: blow-job twatling.
When I heard in 2011 that he was getting a recall as a keeper batsman I couldn't help but roll my eyes. Seemed like a classic case of the kiwi selectors trying shoehorn a player into a role that he wasn't suited for. Thought he'd average high 20's at best and - given that he hadn't kept since his U19 days - drop a bunch of important chances along the way.
It took me a long time to shift from that view point. Even when he was our leading light on an otherwise miserable tour of SA in 2013, I chalked it up to a purple patch. I started to warm up to him a bit more when he strung together some scores against the Bangerz and WI in 2013. But the moment that the penny really dropped for me was on the 2014 tour of WI. In tough conditions, not only did he string together a sequence of vital contributions with the bat, he proved himself to be sublime with the gloves in conditions where the ball was really fizzing and turning at times. By the end of that series he'd completely out-kept the more experienced Ramdin, and I realised that we'd found a genuine quality allrounder.
To Watling: over these past 12 months you've helped many people like myself overcome the trauma of having the initials BJ. Long may you fly the BJ flag high.
Yeah when Watling was brought back my immediate reaction was "why not DdB?" But he's certainly made the role his own and is genuinely the WPWB these days. OPWB doesn't go far enough.
Steve Smith wins, as usual
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