Players Who Went Downhill After Excellent Starts To Their Test Careers

[Kent]

Sorry - I just wasn't sure what 'Sinclair has replaced Papps' had to do with the post you quoted initially.

If it was referencing what I said about converting people into openers, Sinclair would only be a stop-gap measure in Bangladesh, just to get Fleming settled back in at #3 where they've said they want him long-term.

 

[age_master]

blewett

 

[Richard]

Matthew Sinclair has replaced Papps.

I think it's a bit more likely that Mathew Sinclair has.

 

[BoyBrumby]

I think it's a bit more likely that Mathew Sinclair has.

Wow.

World class pedantry from the young man!

Seriously though, I always thought Dom Cork had more about him than his overall test figures show. I think I'm right in saying his 7-40 odd on debut was his best return.

 

[Armadillo]

A certain Robert Massey, but he only played a few games.

 

[marc71178]

World class pedantry from the young man!

It's the one thing that he can claim to be better than the rest of us at.

 

[Richard]

Wow.

World class pedantry from the young man!

And anything less is expected.

Seriously though, I always thought Dom Cork had more about him than his overall test figures show. I think I'm right in saying his 7-40 odd on debut was his best return.

Well TBH he'd have done exceptionally if he bettered those figures - but overall his average should IMO have been far lower than it ended-up - a wasted talent.

 

[Macka]

I think it's a bit more likely that Mathew Sinclair has.

Wow. He got something correct.

 

[tooextracool]

greg blewett and mark greatbatch, both of whom scored centuries on debut eventually ended up averaging in the low 30s.blewett in fact scored 2 centuries in his first 2 tests.

 

[Richard]

Wow. He got something correct.

And if you took the time to look you'd actually see that I get quite a few things correct.

 

[Mister Wright]

And if you took the time to look you'd actually see that I get quite a few things correct.

I wouldn't put that to a cricketweb members vote Richard...

 

[deeps]

Don't you have had to have a high in order to go downhill?

tudor in his first few tests against australia was magnificent. he knocked over both waughs, and bowled very very well...there is no denying that

he looked like he would be the saviour for england bowling

 

[wpdavid]

tudor in his first few tests against australia was magnificent. he knocked over both waughs, and bowled very very well...there is no denying that

he looked like he would be the saviour for england bowling

He certainly had two very good performances against them, along with a couple that were not so good. It's pushing it to say he looked like the saviour of English bowling, but it makes a welcome change for someone to actually point out the good things he did manage.

 

[Anil]

Jimmy Adams is an unfortunate case. If my memory serves, in England in the mid-90s he had his skull fractured and that really shook him up. He came back into the game, with a slightly different stance and approach and never looked the same batsman again. Shame really, as he was one of the best temperaments and finest players of spin to that point.

one of the finest padders of spin, more like....


don't get me wrong, he was very effective with his "technique", but the finest players of spin read the spinner's hand, bring into play their footwork and strokeplay, not just deliberately pad 5 balls and then sweep/slog-sweep the 6th one....

 

[shaka]

one of the finest padders of spin, more like....

Yes he was probably a top rated padder of spin, ie using his pads as oppossed to using his bat.
He did have some good innings in his career but they were not frequent enough

These days i think he is playing in England or in South Africa

 

[Simon]

blewett

in a big way
i was someone who thought he should have been in Australia's WC 2003 squad, but in tests he didnt cut it after an excellent start to his career, which was a shame, cause hes an excellent batsman...

 

[Macka]

And if you took the time to look you'd actually see that I get quite a few things correct.

No one has time to read all your posts.

Yasir and Rudolph anyone? Should their achievements be counted Richard?

 

[SJS]

one of the finest padders of spin, more like....


don't get me wrong, he was very effective with his "technique", but the finest players of spin read the spinner's hand, bring into play their footwork and strokeplay, not just deliberately pad 5 balls and then sweep/slog-sweep the 6th one....

Very well said !!

 

[Smudge]

NZ opener Rodney Redmond

Got a century and an 80 on debut against Pakistan in NZ in the early 1970s, then went on a tour of England, and due to eyesight problems, got horribly out of form and never played another test.

Or is that example too extreme?

 

[mavric41]

Kim Hughes