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    The video that Uvelocity has posted is almost a carbon copy of the catch in question.
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    Shouldn't be out. I first thought it should, but if you think about it, the ball could easily pop out of his hands if he didn't let it touch the ground (eg. if he held his arms in front of him). Therefore, he hasn't got full control of the catch.
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    For the record, I put that it is a catch, but actually think it shouldn't be a catch.


    If the fielder is truly in control of his body he should go to the effort of keeping the ball of the ground. With this catch I think he had control of his body, but just couldn't be arsed. Looks like it's a habit too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    No, it's a catch.

    Refer to Heath's comment re: changing interpretation.

    Having control of the ball and the ball incidentally touching the grass is not the same as using the ground to gain control of the ball.
    There shouldn't be grey intepretations of the law that are "commonly understood". From Marcuss' post it appears it is not a catch. There ideally should not be intepretations layered on top of the law unless the law is unclear which it is not.

    Also just reading what you have written in bold - you should not be deemed to have control of the ball until you have finished diving and have landed safely.

    Finally is the intepretation documented anywhere?


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    Not a catch. Grounding the ball - you just don't do it. A fielder should ALWAYS make every effort to keep something between the ball and the turf. That's the idea of catching (in any sport or situation) anyway, isn't it?
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    Hm, I would give that. If he had control of it in-air and still had it grasped, it is out, is it not?
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    No, otherwise any time where the fielder catches the ball cleanly in the air but loses it upon hitting the ground would also have to be out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uvelocity View Post
    Sean Abbott catch vs Queensland 2010/11 KFC Big Bash - YouTube

    You know what's funny? This isn't the same catch but it's at the same ground on nearly the same peice of grass, and he lands grounding the ball here too. Makes a habit of it imo. Had the ball for a bit longer in this catch.
    Anyone who thinks this isn't a fair catch should find a new sport to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveNZ View Post
    Anyone who thinks this isn't a fair catch should find a new sport to watch.
    Do you have an argument to back up your opinion - or did you just want to caste your vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveNZ View Post
    Anyone who thinks this isn't a fair catch should find a new sport to watch.
    Anyone who thinks it is should find a cricket rule book to read. YOU KEEP THE BALL OFF THE ****ING GROUND AT ALL COSTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned View Post
    Anyone who thinks it is should find a cricket rule book to read. YOU KEEP THE BALL OFF THE ****ING GROUND AT ALL COSTS.
    He's caught it, controlled it and then fallen on his hand. How in the world in that instance is he supposed to land and get up without doing so? If he doesn't, he falls on his nose and breaks it. Not going to happen.

    Show that clip to first-class/international cricketers and I would put my house on they'd say it was a clean catch 98% of the time.

    If it was bobbling around in his hand then he hit the ground, I wouldn't give it. But he's clearly got control of it and the contact with the turf is only an act of preservation.

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    You've got to draw the line somewhere. If you take a catch it mid-air then you're not considered to have control of the catch until you're on the ground with the ball safely held off the turf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveNZ View Post
    He's caught it, controlled it and then fallen on his hand. How in the world in that instance is he supposed to land and get up without doing so? If he doesn't, he falls on his nose and breaks it. Not going to happen.

    Show that clip to first-class/international cricketers and I would put my house on they'd say it was a clean catch 98% of the time.

    If it was bobbling around in his hand then he hit the ground, I wouldn't give it. But he's clearly got control of it and the contact with the turf is only an act of preservation.
    Yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uvelocity View Post
    Sean Abbott catch vs Queensland 2010/11 KFC Big Bash - YouTube

    You know what's funny? This isn't the same catch but it's at the same ground on nearly the same peice of grass, and he lands grounding the ball here too. Makes a habit of it imo. Had the ball for a bit longer in this catch.
    Must be a GABBA thing: AMAZING RICKY PONTING CATCH!!!!! - YouTube
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