Junior or Senior Bats

kevinpietersen · 23-07-2009, 01:07 AM

I was having a look on cricket direct and I was having a look on the Icon Original. It was £219. Then i scrolled down and the only sizes were short handle and long handle. So I went back to the GM page and scrolled down. There was a junior version that was £100 cheaper. And the sizes were 4,5,6,H. I want to know if there is anything different than the Senior version?
Thanks

vic_orthdox · 23-07-2009, 01:09 AM

Quality of the willow generally is not as good in junior bats. Also, the most obvious difference being the sizes. However, be sure not to get a bat that is too big for you.

kevinpietersen · 23-07-2009, 01:28 AM

The website says it is the same. These are the links. Could you check it for me please.
Junior
Gunn & Moore Icon DXM Orignal LE Jnr Cricket Bat - Cricket Direct

senior
Gunn & Moore Icon Dxm Orignal LE Cricket Bat - Cricket Direct

Thanks

Amobokobokoboko · 24-07-2009, 04:38 AM

Junior bats are in general lighter and depending on the size also smaller ( makes sense).
My first bat, that I used to learn the game with and play on the beach, park, greenstroke in NZ was a white label 6 (size) it was so light you could easily use it with one hand.

Personally I think the quality is a bit less then when you buy a senior bat, juniors play with smaller and lighter balls as well.

Neil Pickup · 29-07-2009, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vic_orthdox

Quality of the willow generally is not as good in junior bats. Also, the most obvious difference being the sizes. However, be sure not to get a bat that is too big for you.

This. Depends on your company, though - a small firm will likely use the same quality wood for all the bats. GM are likely to use slightly inferior kit.

kevinpietersen · 30-07-2009, 02:00 AM

So your saying both bats are just as good. Have a look at the links i puut on above.

tevans · 30-07-2009, 04:57 AM

Just because a bat says it's the same grade doesn't mean it was bought as the same grade from the willow supplier.

Jnr clefts are cheaper, that discount is passed onto the buyer.

kevinpietersen · 30-07-2009, 01:27 PM

no it is obviously the same wood just in smaller sizes. That what I think anyway.

tevans · 30-07-2009, 01:33 PM

Ok, with Clefts. There's Mens G1-4 these are occasionally used for Jnr bats. You then get the other mens grades, Vellum, Y2, Y3, handmade etc. You then on top of that have Colts, Boys, Vellum boys, reject boys etc etc

Just because you buy a G1+ (which incidentally is a grade which is a grade which doesn't exist) doesn't mean you're getting a G1 cleft. Jnr bats are cheaper, therefore cheaper clefts are used. Why would you use a cleft which makes a £200 bat if you've got a load which can make Jnr bats.

kevinpietersen · 30-07-2009, 01:38 PM

Aaahhh I see but I'm only 13 (nearly) so I'm not ready to move on to full size bats so I will be staying with junior bats i Think.

mat · 31-07-2009, 03:24 AM

I Harrow is probaly more than enough for a 13 yo, depending on your hight ofcourse. I had my H (english willow) for nearly two years and didnt have too much trouble up until 14ish(probaly 2 years from your age now) when it got a bit small for me. Although i am a bowler and didnt use it all to often

Mat

kevinpietersen · 01-08-2009, 01:52 AM

NO WAY WILL I EVER BUY A HARROW BAT. They are shocking a boy in my team uses one. He slogs the ball over fielders and it don't even go for a four. I can spend up to £170 on a bat I am not going to buy a harrow one.

kevinpietersen · 01-08-2009, 01:53 AM

But next season I will probably be batting at 3 or 4 so I dont want a crap harrow bat.

mat · 01-08-2009, 02:34 AM

Harrow(H) is a size?

kevinpietersen · 01-08-2009, 05:58 AM

oh srry]

23-07-2009, 01:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
kevinpietersen School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Devon Posts: 125	Junior or Senior Bats I was having a look on cricket direct and I was having a look on the Icon Original. It was £219. Then i scrolled down and the only sizes were short handle and long handle. So I went back to the GM page and scrolled down. There was a junior version that was £100 cheaper. And the sizes were 4,5,6,H. I want to know if there is anything different than the Senior version? Thanks

24-07-2009, 04:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Amobokobokoboko U19 12th Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 221	Junior bats are in general lighter and depending on the size also smaller ( makes sense). My first bat, that I used to learn the game with and play on the beach, park, greenstroke in NZ was a white label 6 (size) it was so light you could easily use it with one hand. Personally I think the quality is a bit less then when you buy a senior bat, juniors play with smaller and lighter balls as well. __________________ Amobokobokoboko envolved in the noble game of cricket http://www.flickr.com/photos/26925250@N06/3350344319/

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kevinpietersen School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Devon Posts: 125	So your saying both bats are just as good. Have a look at the links i puut on above. __________________ Favourite Bowler Jimmy Anderson Favourite Batsmen Kevin Pietersen who is sadly out injured for the Ashes. Favourite overall Kevin Pietersen

30-07-2009, 01:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
tevans Cricket Spectator Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 20	Ok, with Clefts. There's Mens G1-4 these are occasionally used for Jnr bats. You then get the other mens grades, Vellum, Y2, Y3, handmade etc. You then on top of that have Colts, Boys, Vellum boys, reject boys etc etc Just because you buy a G1+ (which incidentally is a grade which is a grade which doesn't exist) doesn't mean you're getting a G1 cleft. Jnr bats are cheaper, therefore cheaper clefts are used. Why would you use a cleft which makes a £200 bat if you've got a load which can make Jnr bats. Last edited by tevans; 30-07-2009 at 01:41 PM.

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23-07-2009, 01:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
vic_orthdox Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 24,363	Quality of the willow generally is not as good in junior bats. Also, the most obvious difference being the sizes. However, be sure not to get a bat that is too big for you.

23-07-2009, 01:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
kevinpietersen School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Devon Posts: 125	The website says it is the same. These are the links. Could you check it for me please. Junior Gunn & Moore Icon DXM Orignal LE Jnr Cricket Bat - Cricket Direct senior Gunn & Moore Icon Dxm Orignal LE Cricket Bat - Cricket Direct Thanks

30-07-2009, 04:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
tevans Cricket Spectator Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 20	Just because a bat says it's the same grade doesn't mean it was bought as the same grade from the willow supplier. Jnr clefts are cheaper, that discount is passed onto the buyer.

30-07-2009, 01:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
kevinpietersen School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Devon Posts: 125	no it is obviously the same wood just in smaller sizes. That what I think anyway.

30-07-2009, 01:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
kevinpietersen School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Devon Posts: 125	Aaahhh I see but I'm only 13 (nearly) so I'm not ready to move on to full size bats so I will be staying with junior bats i Think.

31-07-2009, 03:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
mat School Boy/Girl Cricketer Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Perth Posts: 54	I Harrow is probaly more than enough for a 13 yo, depending on your hight ofcourse. I had my H (english willow) for nearly two years and didnt have too much trouble up until 14ish(probaly 2 years from your age now) when it got a bit small for me. Although i am a bowler and didnt use it all to often Mat

01-08-2009, 01:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
kevinpietersen School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Devon Posts: 125	NO WAY WILL I EVER BUY A HARROW BAT. They are shocking a boy in my team uses one. He slogs the ball over fielders and it don't even go for a four. I can spend up to £170 on a bat I am not going to buy a harrow one.

01-08-2009, 01:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
kevinpietersen School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Devon Posts: 125	But next season I will probably be batting at 3 or 4 so I dont want a crap harrow bat.

01-08-2009, 02:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
mat School Boy/Girl Cricketer Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Perth Posts: 54	Harrow(H) is a size?

01-08-2009, 05:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
kevinpietersen School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Devon Posts: 125	oh srry]

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