hi there, this is my first post on the forum. i am trying to learn the art of leg spin, and am having mixed success. i dont yet play for a team, im nowhere near good enough or confident enough to bowl at real batsmen. instead i bowl at my brother who isnt a good enough batsman to play for a team yet either lol. and invariably i get slogged all over the place!!
every now and then i can bowl a peach, a huge turning leg break that gets my brother out. more often than not im pitching the ball leg side just outside leg stump, its turning a minimal amount and arriving at the crease inline with leg stump. typically these either get met with a huge slog sweep or some quick footwork and a slog drive. i guess its good practice to play against someone whos only shots are off balance slogs though! im expecting that to be a fairly common shot against me if i ever take up playing for a club lol. im working on getting the ball to pitch around off and middle though as this is probably more realistic for a beginner, i cant generate enough turn consistently to be pitching outside leg. although i say im a beginner, ive been spinning the ball between my hands (and various round fruits, and anything i have in my hands) for about 5 years, i just never got around to actually bowling leg spin. so i can generate a lot of spin on the ball, its just transferring that into a proper bowling action.
so enough rambling, and onto my issue. the nets i practice at are pretty shabby, and the wicket is a big slab of concrete with some green carpet type stuff on it. i use a real cricket ball (although an incrediball is being considered to see if it is more useful to practice with) and the hardness of the concrete results in minimal turn and lots of extra bounce. i havent yet mastered a run up technique, so i tend to bowl from a couple of slow steps, so the ball lacks any pace and i get lots of flight on it. this is resulting in the extra bounce, but the ball just doesnt turn.
the problem here is that its really hard for me to gauge if im bowling correctly when my stock ball doesnt turn at all. if we use the real grass wicket (which we dont for 2 reasons, one is that its a nightmare to fetch the ball after every shot and my brother has no self control, secondly it isnt our pitch to be messing around on and we dont want to damage it) which ive done for a handful of deliveries just to see what happened, and the ball turns a lot more with the amount of bounce i would expect.
does anyone have any advice on learning leg spin on a concrete wicket? would an incrediball (or any other type of ball for that matter) result in a more realistic reaction with the surface? im resisting the temptation to practice any variations and just focus 100% on the stock leg break, although ive tried a few flippers and toppers and they generate more sideways movement than my leg break lol. it seems the pitch favours longitudinal seam rotation, but not lateral.
any help is greatly appreciated!
also, based on other peoples experience, when inexperienced leg spinners first start playing for a team, are teams typically patient enough to understand that they are going to get slogged for plenty of runs whilst they are learning, but once they have the technique they will take wickets for fun? im worried that if i join a team il be kicked off it within a month for losing entire matches in the space of a few overs lol