Fast V Spin

[Unspinable]

This is a question someone asked me the other day why i do alot of bowlers bowl pace when 1. Good batsmen get used to pace really quickly when everyones bowling it and
2. spinners take more wickets

I know that most people find spin hard but i can spin really well and it isnt as tiring as pace

Any Suggestions?

 

[shortpitched713]

Theres more of a role for seamers in cricket than there is for spinners.

 

[Matteh]

Same reason people cbf to be wicketkeepers. Only 1 spot in a side for them.

 

[Goughy]

Same reason people cbf to be wicketkeepers. Only 1 spot in a side for them.

and why is there only 1 spot in a side? because they are not as useful as quicks

 

[Matteh]

Spinners tend to take the most wickets though, but then they can bowl 40 overs in a day easily enough.

 

[Captain Cricket]

Fast bowlers also make the best use of a new ball. Spinners can't bowl swinging deliveries and also can't grip the ball well onto the pitch with a new seam.

 

[shortpitched713]

and why is there only 1 spot in a side? because they are not as useful as quicks

I wouldn't go so far. In many sides theres room for 2 spinners, but their role is definitely smaller than that of the seamers.

 

[bond21]

pace bowlers win matches.

unless you have an outstanding spin bowler like Warne or Murali who can take as many wickets as the quicks, they are generally used to try something different if the quicks arent getting wickets.

 

[Unspinable]

All Very True i guess my team and the few others ive played lately just have average seamers


but what happens once the ball gets older? Pacers cant swing it as well and the batsmen get used to it?

 

[Captain Cricket]

All Very True i guess my team and the few others ive played lately just have average seamers


but what happens once the ball gets older? Pacers cant swing it as well and the batsmen get used to it?

Well then spinners come into play. If you play 50-80 over cricket for your club then it's most likely you'll have two spinners who bowl 7-10 overs each in 50 over cricket and 15-20 overs in 80 over cricket as the ball takes a long time to reach that stage where the seam wears away and the ball develops roughness. But you can always keep one side shiny to generate some late reverse swing (which I don't think your seamers will be able to do considering you rate them 'average').

 

[Matteh]

All Very True i guess my team and the few others ive played lately just have average seamers


but what happens once the ball gets older? Pacers cant swing it as well and the batsmen get used to it?

That's when variations come into play, slower balls/cutters etc.

 

[Engle]

This is a question someone asked me the other day why i do alot of bowlers bowl pace when 1. Good batsmen get used to pace really quickly when everyones bowling it and
2. spinners take more wickets

Of the 21 bowlers who've taken more than 300 wkts, 17 of them are pacers.

Tho the list is headed by spinners who have gone on longer than the pacers obv due to the lesser demands on the body

 

[Neil Pickup]

Spinners (unless they're freaks) rely almost exclusively on the batsmen making mistakes and mullering their half-trackers down deep mid wicket's throat. Fast bowlers make things happen.

Children have no patience and therefore want to make everything happen. It's also one of the most entrancing sights in the game to see a fast bowler knocking off and middle out of the ground. I certainly got a hell of lot less appreciation for my wickets. Particularly after my long hop found a fielder for the fourth time in the day.

 

[Unspinable]

But also seeing a big leg break get a batter round the legs is also pretty cool to watch

 

[Captain Cricket]

But also seeing a big leg break get a batter round the legs is also pretty cool to watch

Yeah if you're Shane Warne.

 

[Unspinable]

Ive seen others that dont play international do it as well just because people havent seen it doesnt meen it doesnt happen

 

[Captain Cricket]

Yeah I know mate playing in the VPL I know what you mean I was just messing with ya

 

[Unspinable]

Yeah i hoped so but i found bowling them around the legs is pretty fun to do if a little bit hurting in the wrist.

 

[silentstriker]

Also depends on where you are. On certain pitches, the spinners might get more value. At the international level, fast bowlers tend to trump spinners almost everywhere, but if you're growing up on the subcontinent, the ball will swing for the first eight overs, and then you're cannon fodder, so spin will be more useful in terms of winning a match. Almost everywhere else, fast bowlers will win out.

 

[kenny44]

It comes down to the pitches in different countries.

New Zealand have never had world-class spinners (except for Daniel Vettori, which in itself is arguable whether he is world class) because the pitches in New Zealand are not conducive to spin. Slow, low seaming pitches offer very little for spinners.

Pitches in the sub continent and to a lesser extent Australia offer big rewards to spinners.