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vic_orthdox 16-10-2007 11:25 AM

Pet Hates
 
Those of us who do a little bit of coaching, or just mentoring (which is more what I'm doing), what are the little things that a lot of people do that annoy you?

The first is when people rock up early, and then muck around for 10/15 minutes. Obviously you'd expect younger kids to do it, but if you're part of a senior cricket club, you should have the nous to get someone else who is there early to have some throwdowns with you, or do some proper catching practice. Not practice your left arm chinamen, or batting with the wrong hand against a tennis ball.

The other one is guys going down on one knee to field the ball, especially in fielding practice when it doesn't matter if you make a mistake. Attack the ball and get better, don't spend the time getting into worse habits for safety's purpose.

Goughy 16-10-2007 12:37 PM

Fear of failure. So they dont like to try something new and dont try their hardest and be aggressive. Basically a conservative nature.

The best to coach are those with an open mind and willingness to start something they are bad at and work hard to improve rather than keep what they have that is average but with little room to develop.

And Parents :)

PhoenixFire 16-10-2007 01:26 PM

People who claim a straight backlift is the best way to go.

Neil Pickup 16-10-2007 02:57 PM

People who think they are better than they are. If you have made a county squad aged 11, it means you have talent. It doesn't mean you have made it, nor that you know more about the game than your coaches do. It means that you are not going to make it.

Incompetent running between the wickets. Ties in with Goughy's dislike of the fear of failure: for crying out loud, back up, run and call! You win matches by scoring runs and to do that you need to run. Also keepers standing too far back because they're scared. It just makes it harder...

Nnanden 16-10-2007 03:34 PM

When she uses my razor.

andyc 17-10-2007 04:01 AM

:laugh:

Perm 17-10-2007 06:51 PM

A poor attitude, nothing ****s me more.

bugssy 19-10-2007 07:58 AM

being scared to try things and to think outside the square but complain when if you dont practise it doesnt get better.

iamdavid 19-10-2007 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Perm (Post 1356753)
A poor attitude, nothing ****s me more.

Administrators and coaches who take themselves too seriously and prematurely brand a young player as having 'a poor attitude' for a single relatively minor incident. Fair enough some people deserve that label, but once at the end of a training session we were doing warm-down stretches and at the end of the stretch session I drifted off into my own little world and wasnt doing what everyone else was. I subsequently found myself in like 4th grade for a few weeks because I had a 'poor attitude'.

Perm 19-10-2007 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by iamdavid (Post 1358213)
Administrators and coaches who take themselves too seriously and prematurely brand a young player as having 'a poor attitude' for a single relatively minor incident. Fair enough some people deserve that label, but once at the end of a training session we were doing warm-down stretches and at the end of the stretch session I drifted off into my own little world and wasnt doing what everyone else was. I subsequently found myself in like 4th grade for a few weeks because I had a 'poor attitude'.

And? I'm not saying you do have a poor attitude, but coaches expect you to tune into them at practice, and not doing so is very ignorant and disrespectful. Even if it is something unimportant like warm-down stretches, you should always be in the zone and attentive.

dontcloseyoureyes 19-10-2007 06:58 PM

Your mum.

Josh 20-10-2007 02:43 AM

People who block for an over or so, then go the big shot and stumps everywhere.

iamdavid 20-10-2007 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Perm (Post 1358402)
And? I'm not saying you do have a poor attitude, but coaches expect you to tune into them at practice, and not doing so is very ignorant and disrespectful. Even if it is something unimportant like warm-down stretches, you should always be in the zone and attentive.

Yes but we are human and one lapse particularly a minor one should not equate to 'a poor attitude' thus hindering that players prospects at the selection table etc.
Fair enough if you're always rocking up late not in the correct gear or you dont bust your ass at training, dont take advice on board, dont show a willingness to work at your game or you're just generally a disruptive influence.
But having it in for a player and punishing them over one minor lapse in concentration is over the top and its abusing your power.

bond21 20-10-2007 09:54 PM

that is pretty weak on their part david.

Do they think they are coaching the Australian team or something?

And dropping you down to 4th grade is stupid.

My club has a simple rule: pick players on their performance.

Some A graders dont even turn up to training and they still stay in the side because they are good enough. Some C graders turn up every week and dont ever move up because they arent good enough.

If an A grader scores a 50 every game, I dont think anyone would care i f he doesnt train because he is performing.

Dropping you to 4th grade for not "paying attention" during frickin warm downs is piss weak. Especially if you were performing in whatever grade u were playing before.

open365 28-10-2007 09:04 AM

The class distinction between the 1st team and everyone else.

Like at nets, no first teamer will ever bowl in any other team's lane, and once the batsmen have finished batting they just sit down and don't repay the favour by bowling at others. Added on top of that they think they can just **** off at the end and not pay their fees.

I once got a bollocking by the second team captain because i wouldn't play on Sunday (i'm a 4th teamer and no where near good enough to play) when they were short. I pointed out to him that the only reason he wanted me to play was because the rest of the 2nd team were too lazy so he could go stuff himself.


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