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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Excellent post, should take out an Afridi IMO.

    You should revive your 1800 call Goughy thread, that was gun
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBU View Post
    His bowling improved on the last day when there were hardly any spectators at Lords.
    Just like how he bowled quite well in the second innings of the Syndey Test match?

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    Without for a moment querying Goughy's analysis of Harmison's action, which I thought was brilliant (Goughy, not GBH's action, that is), my problem here is that this isn't something that's crept into his game over the last 6 months, and I don't know how easy it is to change something that's been second nature for a decade or so. The bigger worry is how something so ropey can go unchecked until a player reaches the test side, but we've seen that before, of course.

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    Interesting statistic from Agnew's blog (shame about the rest) regarding Harmison and the faux sense of match winning credibility he exudes…

    Tests 1 to 10: 28 wickets at an average of 36
    Tests 11 to 20: 59 wickets at 19
    Tests 21 to 30: 34 wickets at 35
    Tests 31 to 40: 34 wickets at 32
    Tests 41 to 50: 34 wickets at 37


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tms/2007/..._england.shtml
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    Quote Originally Posted by TT Boy View Post
    Interesting statistic from Agnew's blog (shame about the rest) regarding Harmison and the faux sense of match winning credibility he exudes…

    Tests 1 to 10: 28 wickets at an average of 36
    Tests 11 to 20: 59 wickets at 19
    Tests 21 to 30: 34 wickets at 35
    Tests 31 to 40: 34 wickets at 32
    Tests 41 to 50: 34 wickets at 37


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tms/2007/..._england.shtml
    Yeah, it's amazing how many journalists obediently trot out the "match-winner" tag, given the reality of what's actually happened. Further analysis of the above reinforces my point, as the multiples of 10 approach is rather simplistic. It's also better to leave out the freebies against Zim and Bangladesh, as pretty much anyone in the country could have boosted his average against those guys.

    Better to look at:
    Phase 1 (2002-2003) - India, Aus & SA
    Phase 2 (2004 golden patch) - WI, NZ & WI
    Phase 3 (the rest) - SA, Aus, Pak, India, Pak, Aus & WI

    IIRC his phase 3 average is about 41, which really isn't clever over six and a bit series.

    I've seen nothing to alter my perception that the one time in his life when he got his finger out was after for once getting the message that he wasn't actually doing "enough", which is generallty what he trots out. That involved not getting a central contract at the end of the 2003 SA series and some very unsubtle messages from the England camp after he returned early from Bang a couple of months later. Either side of that, he's spent his entire professional career having his ego massaged first by county then by country instead of being challenged to sort his game out and do what he's capable of instead of getting by on mediocrity. The result is what we've seen over the last two and a half years.

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    I believe a simpler thing happened, a much simpler one. He bowled a bit - and only a bit - better in those first 7 Tests in 2004 than normal, received the benefit of some ridiculously poor batting (only at Sabina Park, for instance, did he ever take any wickets in his first spell) and hasn't done on any other occasions.

    IMO he could work as hard as anyone wants, and those 7 Tests will never be repeated.
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