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  • A batsman who is more technique-based than talented

    11 36.67%
  • A batsman who is more talented than technique-based

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    His technique is hardly first-rate, either, though...
    Well he doesn't really allow himself to display it, because he fancies slogging so much. But I've seen him play many a correct shot.
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    I saw Dwayne Smith play a perfect forward-defensive too once...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    I saw Dwayne Smith play a perfect forward-defensive too once...
    But Smith is definitely a case of poor shot selection. He has a pretty decent technique, but he generally doesn't pick the right shot to the right ball. A lot of his play is premeditated.

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    OK... gimme someone you consider poor technically...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    OK... gimme someone you consider poor technically...
    Chris Gayle, Virender Sehwag, Nathan Astle - players with flawed techniques. Right away I can't think of anyone from a major team with a poor technique though. Not a batsman at least. Pick a Bermudan?

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    OK... less than good technically.

    Right then...

    I saw Nathan Astle play a perfect forward-defense once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk View Post
    Chris Gayle, Virender Sehwag, Nathan Astle - players with flawed techniques. Right away I can't think of anyone from a major team with a poor technique though. Not a batsman at least. Pick a Bermudan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    I was thinking numbers of very similar value, TBH.
    20% difference is not similar.
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    So 8 and 10 are not similar?

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    Add Afridi and Razzaq on that list too, and for that matter most of sub-continental players have faulty techniques since pitches here are flat and unresponsive to bowlers so these batsman basically get away even without good techniques on sub-continental pitches, and its when they tour outside the sub-continent that there techniques are exposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    depends on HOW MUCH the talent is.


    If it is say, Laraesque, take him anyday. But if it is more at the level of a Jayawardene or a Gibbs, then I will take the technique guy.
    Gibbs is still more talented at cricket than 99.9% of all people on earth, and will be better than any average person by many miles even if the average guy were to train 24/7. The guy just smacked 6 sixes in an over, and scored 175 against a top bowling attack to chase down 434.



    You make him sound like a backyard tennis-ball cricketer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evermind View Post
    Gibbs is still more talented at cricket than 99.9% of all people on earth, and will be better than any average person by many miles even if the average guy were to train 24/7. The guy just smacked 6 sixes in an over, and scored 175 against a top bowling attack to chase down 434.



    You make him sound like a backyard tennis-ball cricketer.
    for all that talent, what is his average against the other teams of the top 8?



    Compare that with the not so gifted Kirsten and you will get my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    for all that talent, what is his average against the other teams of the top 8?



    Compare that with the not so gifted Kirsten and you will get my point.
    Gibbs vs top 8 sides: 5629 @ 42.62, 13 hundreds, 23 fifties

    Kirsten: 626 runs @ 31.30, 1 hundred, 4 fifties




    Well you didn't say which Kirsten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    So 8 and 10 are not similar?
    Different between perfect and not perfect in exam marked out of 10.
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