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    Indian Journalist to Angelo Matthews "Do you think there is a clear difference between India and the rest of the Asian teams in this tournament"?
    Angelo Matthews: "No."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Warrior View Post
    Well I wasn't thinking of a player by player comparison but more as a combined top 3.

    If we look at the top 3 of the top 4 teams today

    South Africa QDK Amla Faf
    Australia Warner Finch/Head/Khawaja (?) Smith
    India Rohit Dhawan Kohli
    England Roy Hales Root


    Warner is the best ODI opener in the world today but as a combined top 3, I would pick India based on their credentials and record over a period of time.

    As a player v player assessment, I think Dhawan just edges Hales (even after giving weight to current form)
    Finch looks so out of place in that list of names.
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    Gonna be funny when Starc knocks Hales over in the first over.


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    More relevantly though, after they lifted the trophy, did the authorities catch India and make them give it back?

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    Last time an authority figure tried to do that, Damien Martyn pushed him off the dias.
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    ^ And this is why I would pick Dhawan over Amla as my ODI opener

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Warrior View Post
    Well I wasn't thinking of a player by player comparison but more as a combined top 3.

    If we look at the top 3 of the top 4 teams today

    South Africa QDK Amla Faf
    Australia Warner Finch/Head/Khawaja (?) Smith
    India Rohit Dhawan Kohli
    England Roy Hales Root


    Warner is the best ODI opener in the world today but as a combined top 3, I would pick India based on their credentials and record over a period of time.

    As a player v player assessment, I think Dhawan just edges Hales (even after giving weight to current form)
    These names are so good. 90% of these players will end up as ATGs at the end of their career, either in just ODIs or overall.

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    Will they bollocks. There's 14 names there which only 1 or 2 won't be according to you.

    At most there's 6 or 7 who will be ATGs in that list and that's assuming that they continue/improve their current form.
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    I am assuming he meant everyone except Roy and 2nd Aussie opener. Although I personally dont really see how Faf can be an ATG in ODIs.

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    Faf will be looked back upon like a Damien Martyn - no way an all time great in the format, but was a very good player.
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    faf, finch, khawaja, hales, roy, head and probably dhawan won't be looked at as ATGs by the end of their careers imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    faf, finch, khawaja, hales, roy, head and probably dhawan won't be looked at as ATGs by the end of their careers imo.
    Can't agree with dhawan given his ICC record, he is like jesse lingard at wembley in icc tournaments, average player but will always be remembered fondly for his big game contributions.

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    Great ODI players at the moment - Kohli, Root, Warner, Smith, Amla
    Very good ODI players at the moment - Rohit, Dhawan, QDK, Faf
    Good/Above average ODI players at the moment - Hales, Roy, Finch, Head, Khawaja


    I think Kohli as an ATG by the time he finishes his career is a given.

    Root, Smith, Warner should get there too. Don't know if Amla will get there given his sub par performances when it 'matters'.

    QDK should potentially get there but he is still at such an early stage in his career, too early to make a comment on ATG status tbh.

    Dhawan - will go down as a very very good ODI opener, given his ICC achievements. Avg 44 SR 90 is not an average player by any means

    The rest - No

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Warrior View Post
    Great ODI players at the moment - Kohli, Root, Warner, Smith, Amla
    Very good ODI players at the moment - Rohit, Dhawan, QDK, Faf
    Good/Above average ODI players at the moment - Hales, Roy, Finch, Head, Khawaja


    I think Kohli as an ATG by the time he finishes his career is a given.

    Root, Smith, Warner should get there too. Don't know if Amla will get there given his sub par performances when it 'matters'.

    QDK should potentially get there but he is still at such an early stage in his career, too early to make a comment on ATG status tbh.

    Dhawan - will go down as a very very good ODI opener, given his ICC achievements. Avg 44 SR 90 is not an average player by any means

    The rest - No
    QDK > Root in ODIs.

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