So finally someone has found some of Ravi sad sack Bopara's much vaunted talent. Glad he got the ball moving around corners against Sri Lanka...
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I doubt they actually tamper with the ball. They obviously do things that are a bit naughty, such as throwing it in on the bounce, in order to scruff it up, but I'd be very surprised if they actually dug their nails in.
You don't need to really. Reverse swing isn't half as difficult to achieve as people seem to make out. I get it swinging the other way in club games quite a bit if it's a dry day.
Having said that though I'm not dismissing this out of hand and I agree with flibbertyjibber, if there is any evidence then it needs to be dealt with. Trouble is, say it is Bopara and they can dig up evidence to show he was doing something untoward with the ball then he'll take the fall for something that MUST be a team plan.........not sure that's right.
And the cynic in me is now wondering if that's why Ravi is now on ball shining duty and not Cook.........Bopara is dispensable, Cook isn't.
But, all this speculation is a bit of nonsense until something official is said and some evidence put on the table, right now it's just Bob Willis grabbing some headlines.
So the theory behind reverse swing is that you want one side of the ball scuffed up while maintaining the shine on the other. Throwing the ball back in on the bounce is done to assist scuffing up the rough side, but when they throw the ball in on the bounce how on earth do they know what side will hit the dirt?? Surely there is just as much chance of damaging the side they are looking after??
Clearly the theory works but it just doesn't make sense to me.
Hate to tell you guys but throwing the ball into the ground on purpose can be construed as ball tampering and the umps have every right to put a stop to it
To me it's perfectly reasonable for a fielding team to try to avoid the ground when they're looking to preserve conventional swing, and throw in on the bounce more when they're looking to achieve some reverse with an older ball.
I voted Cook because I thought he was the designated ball shiner, but if Ravi is doing it - its likely it was him. Obvious joke answer is Broad though, since he's likely to have manicures.
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We'd all agree that the use of bottle tops or Afridi biting the ball are a step too far, but then surely just the mere shining of the ball is artificially manipulating it.......then you've got rubbing saliva onto it (mint induced or otherwise). How on earth can anyone say what's acceptable and what's not when every side is doing some form of it or another.
Reverse swing is a wonderful and fascinating art and the game is better for it, but surely the whole phenomenon only comes about from what some people see as dodgy tactics?? Personally I think the game has been weighted too far towards the batsmen, and if this is something in favour of the bowler then some leniency needs to be given. Just don't know where the line is drawn is all.
So you visually see a rougher side and a shinier side, but in terms of swing, what looks shiny acts as the rough, and what looks rough acts as if its shiny.
I think the scientific explanation is to do with air pockets and pressure as the air flows around the moving ball or something.
David Hopps, taking sucking up to new levels. Ravi Shastri would be proud.What we are also witnessing is an unofficial ICC clampdown on England's habit of throwing the ball into the stumps on the bounce to deliberately roughen up the ball. The technique is entirely legal - and it is adopted by England not just because it can hasten the arrival of reverse swing but because it gets the ball to the stumps faster. You can hardly legislate against that.
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