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Scaly piscine · 05-12-2006, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeW

what type of player can 4 million get me?

Thats how much i'll have if i sell Mcfadden.

You'll get more than 2m for him, probably something like 2.5m. Still annoyed at the quality-superb bat that was middle of both levels that I couldn't get last week because I was busy getting crap tiles in Abergavenny.

Anyway for 4m you can get wonderfuls, superb all-rounders or a little lower than that if they're like 18.

mikeW · 05-12-2006, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

You'll get more than 2m for him, probably something like 2.5m. Still annoyed at the quality-superb bat that was middle of both levels that I couldn't get last week because I was busy getting crap tiles in Abergavenny.

Anyway for 4m you can get wonderfuls, superb all-rounders or a little lower than that if they're like 18.

Thanks mate, like the sound of that

trevor_vayro · 05-12-2006, 09:22 AM

BTW Mahindinho, I'm not referring to Swansea in my header - I do actually have to live just outside Cardiff these days, owing to work. To save typing it out over again, if you don't mind, I'll cut and paste from a previous post

"However my main objection is commuting! When I first started working I tried and failed to commute back and forth to work, and in the end it was my deteriorating mental state brought about by trains, which led to me having to up sticks from my beloved God's city of Swansea, to move up here to Chav Central, AKA Cardiff.
'My deteriorating mental state' sounds a bit dramatic I suppose, I don't want you to go away thinking I'm some sort of nut-job, (well no more than you already do anyway!) but what I meant was that Great Western's sheer ineptitude was ruining my quality of life. In theory, it should have only taken me fifty minutes to get from Swansea to Cardiff and vice Versa, but in nine months of commuting, I think the bloody thing ran on time about twice! Mind you, this was in the immediate aftermath of the Hatfield rail crash, so maybe things have improved since. I was leaving the house at about half seven and not
getting home some nights until gone nine. Although, having said I don't want you to think I'm some sort of nut-job, I think I was actually beginning to crack up:-) I developed a pathological hatred of those recorded announcements they have at train stations - You know the ones?

"Ding dang dong - I'm sorry to announce that the 19:03 service to Swansea is delayed by approximately one hour and seventeen minutes - Owing to emergency speed restrictions on the Acton Main Line - First Great Western are extremely sorry for the severe delay to this service!"

Two main problems with these: Firstly, how the **** can they say "*I'm* sorry to announce..."? It's a ****ing robot! - You can't be sorry, you're not real! Give me a human to shout at, I'll bloody well tell them what a misery they were making of my life - I'll make sure their *extremely* sorry, don't you worry! And secondly, five minutes later the same announcement would come on again, giving the same excuse, but this time it would be an hour and twenty-five minutes late.
A, how can it give the same excuse for getting *even* later, when one assumes that by this stage the train has already passed the aforementioned speed restrictions on the Acton Main Line?
And B, how can it have possibly got another *eight* minutes late since the last announcement, which was only *five* minutes ago? I mean, surely to god, even if it had have stopped dead in it's tracks since the first announcement then it could still only have been another five minutes late? To have got eight minutes later in the space of five minutes it must actually have gone into reverse, and gone back up the track towards frigging Paddington!!!! Never trust train companies, , they lie to you! Also never trust men with centre partings, or anyone who has two Christian names instead of a proper surname, or anyone who calls you 'Chick' - Stick to those four basic rules and you won't go far wrong in life."

Yes, quite a few of my good players are still getting trained. Staveley (21) is High Sup/Resp Bat, and is due for a Bat and Conc pop soon. I'll carry on training him for another couple of seasons, and hopefully he'll be Wand/Qual by his mid twenties.

Greening (20) is currently Qual/Comp Bat, and due to turn Rem in the next month. Hopefully I can get him up to Sens before I'm done with him, but his Conc has, and I guess will continue to, hold him back from his true potential, so before he gets that far I might trade him in for a lower skilled, but younger and more rounded batsman.

20yo Keeper Noon is Resp WK and Prof/Resp Bat - And is due for a pop in all three in the near future. Guess he's not starting from a high enough position to make it worth training him indefinitely, like the other two, but I'll give him at least next season, by which time he'll hopefully be Sup/Sup Bat, and close to Sup WK. His batting should then be good enough to hold down a place in my middle order for the time being, and his keeping will be as good as I want really. I don't really have the statistical analysis to back this up, but I've got a hunch that you get diminishing returns from WKs, the higher up the levels you go. I mean, I don't think that there's the same difference in performance between a Prof WK and a Rem WK, as there would be between a Prof Bat or bowl and a Rem counterpart. I suppose that there are a limited amount of chances for keepers, and if you only get three chances then you can only take three catches, even if those three catches were so easy a Med WK could have taken them. Plus, if you get a proper Gun all-round WK, the wages are prohibitively expensive, certainly in comparison to their return in terms of performances. I don't know, I'd certainly say this is true at the level at which I'm playing, but perhaps when you get further up the leagues you need a better keeper to compete?

Anyway, the other batting trainees are 21Yo Patel and 19YO Bennett. Patel is Prof/Resp Bat, and is only getting a net until he reaches Strong in a month or two, and only that because he's Sup/Feeb Lead and I'd like to keep him as captain of the side for as long as possible. Bennett is Prof/Med Bat, and due to hit Strong soon. He may go on to Qual/Strong or something, or I might flog him TBH, as he can only get runs in the middle order, which is a bit of a bind with a WK/Batsman and an All-rounder also in the top six.

My only bowling trainee is 20YO Bewers. He's now Sup/Resp, and due for a Bowl and Cons pop before long. I'll persevere with him, and I guess he'll reach Wand/Qual in time. However, Bewers is a Cautious LM, so at some stage in the future I'll have to find the funds to buy a strike bowler.

All-rounder Steve Cash (30) is getting one fielding net, out of curiosity as much as anything. He's Resp/Strong Bat and Strong/Comp Bowl, and I'm getting pretty regular secondary poppage out of him - Which is nice, though I'm not sure it's worth carrying on the experiment beyond the end of the season.

I know that a lot of my trainees are getting on a bit, and that, in the long term, I'd get more change out of 17yo Resps, but with no money to bring in trainees without having to sacrifice a first team player, what can I do? I've figured that this group of players is good enough to succeed eventually, even if weaker teams overtake me in the short term.

Later, Trev

The Baconator · 05-12-2006, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PY

Haha, I'm 2nd in II.1 now after this happened:

http://www.battrick.org/nl/matchInfo.asp?matchID=569368

The guy who took 6/31 is a respectable at best. India is such a joke, My ratings, after selling my middle order, last week were:

Boggles
Top Order: strong
Middle Order: feeble
Lower Order: abysmal
Seam Bowling: respectable
Spin Bowling: competent
Fielding: feeble

That wouldn't get me out of Div IV in England & Australia.

Yeah, it's pretty good being in a crap country.

Vindscreen VIpers
Top Order: proficient
Middle Order: mediocre
Lower Order: abysmal
Seam Bowling: competent
Spin Bowling: competent
Fielding: feeble

That's me on GFI, and I'll finsh 4th or 5th in Pakistani II.2

Mahindinho · 05-12-2006, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevor_vayro

Never trust train companies, , they lie to you! Also never trust men with centre partings, or anyone who has two Christian names instead of a proper surname, or anyone who calls you 'Chick' - Stick to those four basic rules and you won't go far wrong in life."

*grin*

I've always adhered to rules #1 and #3, while #4 sounds rather sensible...but I'm not sure of #2.

Anyway, training-wise, you've got this little lot:

Staveley 21 sup++/resp bat
Greening 20 qual+/comp bat
Noon 20 prof/resp bat, resp wk
Patel 21 prof/resp bat
Bennett 19 prof+/med bat
Bewers 20 sup+/resp+ bowl
Cash 30 resp/str bat, str/comp bowl

That all looks fairly sensible, actually - you're training some older players, but they've all got decent stats. As long as you're not training solely for profit, you're alright. It's actually looking very much like a slightly older version of my team from the start of last season - as the general level of your team increases, you'll find that you start beating the "superstar" teams to whom you used to lose.

However, I'd seriously consider stopping training Stavely and Patel as soon as they pop, and instead giving their nets over to Greening and Bewers, who'd benefit more from the boost. You REALLY want those two to hit Remarkable or even Wonderful before they get too old. Okay, maybe get Staveley up to Remarkable

I don't know what your bowling lineup's like, but I'd consider selling Patel (or even Staveley) once popped, to get a better (and trainable) bowler or two in - at the moment, it looks as you're going to have a bit of an unbalanced side, esp. when FC games come in and you have trouble taking 20 wickets.

I've got a similar problem, in that I need to sell one of my bowlers at some point and buy a third gun batsman (Qual+).

Wicketkeeping's an interesting one - obviously they increase your fielding rating, and that's going to increase the probability of getting catches...but how much of an individual difference do they make? I'd guess that, like in the real world, better WKs are going to come into their own for the FC matches.

What does everyone else think? Not that you'd trust my opinion anyway, what with my (slight) centre parting

trevor_vayro · 05-12-2006, 11:07 AM

Will Def pull Patel's net once he gets to Strong in the next month or so, but not sure if I should sell him. He's Comp Field, which is one of the better in my side, and Sup/Feeb lead, which would be difficult to top without going into the realms of 30-odd YO players, or internationals, who are way out of my price-range. Besides, Strong/Resp Bat will almost certainly be good enough to get in my top seven for another three seasons still. Although, on the other side of the coin, I'm yet to be convinced of how important captaincy is? A couple of seasons ago I switched my batting order around, but forgot to move the armband. Consequently a Feeb/Abs captain skippered us for a few matches before I noticed the mistake, with no appreciable difference in team performance. Perhaps it's another one of those things which won't come into its own until FC?

So I can free up one net when Patel pops, and I suppose I could take cash's fielding net away? Do you think I'd get more change out of: A, two Bowling nets on Bewers? B, A Bowl and a Field on Bewers? C, as I am currently, a Bowl on Bewers and a Field on Cash?

But not going to pull Staveley's batting net in favour of giving another to Greening. Partly because Staveley is my most consistent performer. Greening hits a spectacular knock one in four innings, but leaves the week-to-week donkey-work up to Staveley. And Secondly, given how far Greening's Conc lags behind his Batting, and how long it takes to train secondaries, (even with a WK net as he has currently), I'm not even sure if I'm going to keep Greening long term.

Normally have an end-of-season fat camp, where I sack all the coaches, and replace them with 10 fitness coaches to get all the first XI up a level of Stam. But seeing as there's another delay in FC, and all the starting team are already Comp or better Stam, I don't think I'm going to bother this time, as I figure I'll get more out of just pressing on with the regular training over an extended closed season.

BTW, don't worry about the centre parting - Speaking as a man who, through the course of his life, has sported both a mullet and bleached blond hair - I'm hardly in a position to give out fashion tips!

Later, Trev

Jamee999 · 05-12-2006, 01:19 PM

Right. Time for one of my occasional long posts that no-one really cares about, but I'd like some thoughts anyway

Openers

My opening positon is a bit of a revolving door at the moment, with my attempt to find someone consistently scoring from the top.

Right now I have Dominic Kerwin and Andrew Lea opening for me, as a bit of an experiment. I'm convinced that a destructive opener (Lea) will do well as a pinch-hitter of sorts, while Kerwin's steady style should be able to make sure we don't find my best 2 batsmen, Gowshall and Aldred, in at 2/2. Gowshall, Aldred and Ndah could all bat at the top, and there's no real difference between Kerwin and Ndah.

Code:

Dominic Kerwin - 26 yo, BT Rating=5,890
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A steady player with worthless leadership skills and feeble experience.
Stamina: 	mediocre 	Wicket Keeping: 	abysmal
Batting: 	respectable 	Concentration: 	mediocre
Bowling: 	worthless 	Consistency: 	woeful
Fielding: 	feeble

Code:

Andrew Lea - 21 yo, BT Rating=5,358
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A destructive player with woeful leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: 	mediocre 	Wicket Keeping: 	worthless
Batting: 	respectable 	Concentration: 	mediocre
Bowling: 	abysmal 	Consistency: 	feeble
Fielding: 	feeble

Middle Order

Gowshall and Aldred have been playing at 3 and 4 for a couple of seasons now, and are really finding a niché there. It's better for Aldred's PFL, considering he's bowling as well, and Gowshall bats better with a platform to build on. 5 is Ndah, who is there to play the anchor role if we get into trouble. At Number 6 is allrounder Dwight Kealey, the youngest member of the team at 17, and one of the most promising. Number 7 is wicket-keeper Wanless. At 8, I'm playing a specialist bat, in Mccammon, who i'm trying to get ready to slot in up the order or sell. He plays because I have 2 allrounders. He is also only the 2nd left-handed specialist bat.

Code:

Hamid Gowshall - 30 yo, BT Rating=25,399
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A defensive player with woeful leadership skills and competent experience.
Stamina: 	competent 	Wicket Keeping: 	abysmal
Batting: 	proficient 	Concentration: 	proficient
Bowling: 	abysmal 	Consistency: 	superb
Fielding: 	proficient

Code:

Maurice Aldred - 21 yo, BT Rating=13,495
RH Batsman, RFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
An attacking player with woeful leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: 	competent 	Wicket Keeping: 	worthless
Batting: 	proficient 	Concentration: 	competent
Bowling: 	respectable 	Consistency: 	competent
Fielding: 	abysmal

Code:

Jlloyd Ndah - 30 yo, BT Rating=7,942
LH Batsman, LFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A steady player with mediocre leadership skills and mediocre experience.
Stamina: 	mediocre 	Wicket Keeping: 	worthless
Batting: 	respectable 	Concentration: 	mediocre
Bowling: 	worthless 	Consistency: 	woeful
Fielding: 	respectable

Code:

Dwight Kealey - 17 yo, BT Rating=12,833
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, invigorated
An attacking player with worthless leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: 	mediocre 	Wicket Keeping: 	abysmal
Batting: 	respectable 	Concentration: 	mediocre
Bowling: 	strong 	Consistency: 	feeble
Fielding: 	woeful

Code:

Dirk Wanless - 26 yo, BT Rating=9,084
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, superb batting form, strong bowling form, sublime
A defensive player with competent leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: 	mediocre 	Wicket Keeping: 	competent
Batting: 	respectable 	Concentration: 	feeble
Bowling: 	worthless 	Consistency: 	competent
Fielding: 	abysmal

Code:

Dom Mccammon - 19 yo, BT Rating=4,572
LH Batsman, RF Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A cautious player with abysmal leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: 	woeful 	Wicket Keeping: 	worthless
Batting: 	respectable 	Concentration: 	feeble
Bowling: 	woeful 	Consistency: 	abysmal
Fielding: 	feeble

Bowlers

The lead bowler spot is obviously taken by Bardle. The remaining two are taken by Laws and Fitzpatrick, with Laws providing the spinning variety. Broomes is also in the squad.

Code:

Gareth Bardle - 19 yo, BT Rating=64,808
RH Batsman, RFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, lively
A cautious player with woeful leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: 	superb 	Wicket Keeping: 	worthless
Batting: 	worthless 	Concentration: 	competent
Bowling: 	wonderful 	Consistency: 	quality
Fielding: 	remarkable

Code:

Anthony Fitzpatrick - 29 yo, BT Rating=5,851
RH Batsman, RFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A defensive player with abysmal leadership skills and mediocre experience.
Stamina: 	mediocre 	Wicket Keeping: 	worthless
Batting: 	abysmal 	Concentration: 	woeful
Bowling: 	proficient 	Consistency: 	feeble
Fielding: 	abysmal

Code:

Daniel Laws - 28 yo, BT Rating=8,464
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
An attacking player with feeble leadership skills and feeble experience.
Stamina: 	mediocre 	Wicket Keeping: 	feeble
Batting: 	worthless 	Concentration: 	mediocre
Bowling: 	proficient 	Consistency: 	mediocre
Fielding: 	feeble

Reserves

Code:

James Broomes - 19 yo, BT Rating=6,546
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A destructive player with proficient leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: 	feeble 	Wicket Keeping: 	worthless
Batting: 	worthless 	Concentration: 	abysmal
Bowling: 	respectable 	Consistency: 	competent
Fielding: 	abysmal

Code:

Kevin Sugden - 29 yo, BT Rating=9,199 [transfer listed]
LH Batsman, LM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A defensive player with feeble leadership skills and feeble experience.
Stamina: 	feeble 	Wicket Keeping: 	worthless
Batting: 	feeble 	Concentration: 	respectable
Bowling: 	respectable 	Consistency: 	feeble
Fielding: 	mediocre

Any changes you'd make to:

[B]
1. Dom Kerwin
2. Andrew Lea
3. Hamid Gowshall
4. Maurice Aldred (b4)
5. Jlloyd Ndah*
6. Dwight Kealey (b3)
7. Dirk Wanless+
8. Dom Mccammon
9. Anthony Fitzpatrick (b2)
10. Gareth Bardle (b1)
11. Daniel Laws (b5)[b]

Scaly piscine · 05-12-2006, 03:04 PM

Put a few guys on the market just in case anyone is interested:

Peter Staunton (521224)
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, abysmal batting form, woeful bowling form, sublime
A destructive player with woeful leadership skills and abysmal experience.

Plays For: Scaly Piscine CC
Nationality: England
Age: 23 Years Old
Battrick Rating: 2,534
Wages: £618 p/w

Stamina: feeble Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: abysmal Concentration: abysmal
Bowling: competent Consistency: feeble
Fielding: feeble

High competent, asking price is 50k.

Farasat Lanewalla (55349)
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, superb batting form, proficient bowling form, sublime
A defensive player with woeful leadership skills and abysmal experience.

Plays For: Scaly Piscine CC
Nationality: Pakistan
Age: 29 Years Old
Battrick Rating: 4,979
Wages: £1,025 p/w

Stamina: woeful Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: respectable Concentration: feeble
Bowling: worthless Consistency: woeful
Fielding: woeful

High respectable, asking price is 80k.

Leon Gradley (976311)
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, respectable batting form, woeful bowling form, sublime
A cautious player with woeful leadership skills and worthless experience.

Plays For: Scaly Piscine CC
Nationality: England
Age: 17 Years Old
Battrick Rating: 3,192
Wages: £604 p/w

Stamina: woeful Wicket Keeping: woeful
Batting: mediocre Concentration: feeble
Bowling: competent Consistency: woeful
Fielding: worthless

Middle of the levels, asking price is 50k.

Cloete · 05-12-2006, 06:21 PM

One pop.

Swagat Moodley - 20 yo, BT Rating=85,320
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, strong batting form, superb bowling form, lively
An attacking player with abysmal leadership skills and competent experience.
Stamina: superb Wicket Keeping: mediocre
Batting: competent Concentration: quality
Bowling: sensational Consistency: wonderful
Fielding: proficient

dontcloseyoureyes · 05-12-2006, 08:51 PM

Swagat, what a gun.

ash chaulk · 05-12-2006, 09:27 PM

Mooooooooooooooooooodley

Mahindinho · 06-12-2006, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevor_vayro

Will Def pull Patel's net once he gets to Strong in the next month or so, but not sure if I should sell him....{snip} stuff about captaincy {snip}...Perhaps it's another one of those things which won't come into its own until FC?

I reckon so - maybe underperforming bowlers would get pulled off (fnarr) more quickly by better captains.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevor_vayro

So I can free up one net when Patel pops, and I suppose I could take cash's fielding net away? Do you think I'd get more change out of: A, two Bowling nets on Bewers? B, A Bowl and a Field on Bewers? C, as I am currently, a Bowl on Bewers and a Field on Cash?

If Cash is likely to be in your team for a while, you may as well keep going with him for a level or two - he's not a bad all-rounder, and his secondaries should improve quickly. No-one knows at what age skills will start to decrease, unfortunately

A. I'd tend to double-up on primary nets for key younger players, just to get make the most of the quicker primary skills training. Obviously, you still get some secondary benefit anyway. If you can get him to Remark++ (or even Wonderful) while he's 21, you'll be laughing. The secondaries can come later, although you'd get a few pops as it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevor_vayro

But not going to pull Staveley's batting net in favour of giving another to Greening. Partly because Staveley is my most consistent performer.

Fair enough, but watch out - 'form' is temporary; class is permanent

If you do end up selling Greening, time it right and you'll get plenty of cash to bolster that bowling attack.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevor_vayro

Normally have an end-of-season fat camp, where I sack all the coaches,

Like it!

chaminda_00 · 06-12-2006, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamee999

Any changes you'd make to:

[B]
1. Dom Kerwin
2. Andrew Lea
3. Hamid Gowshall
4. Maurice Aldred (b4)
5. Jlloyd Ndah*
6. Dwight Kealey (b3)
7. Dirk Wanless+
8. Dom Mccammon
9. Anthony Fitzpatrick (b2)
10. Gareth Bardle (b1)
11. Daniel Laws (b5)[b]

I would drop Lea your destructive bat to number 5, against half defent bowlers, that you'll probably face in Div IV he probably just get out cheaply. Also i've noticed that destructive bats are generally a lot more effective during the last ten overs, then first ten, well mine are.

Also if you have a spare net or two i would get a trainee batsmen, instead of Mccammon, i doubt he'll will ever get that high. My guess is that most games you/Bardle will roll your opp for under 200. But you might come up against some half decent bowlers, who could roll your batsmen for under 200 as well.

With a 17yo respectable bat you'll be able to get him up to superb by end of the season on two nets. He'll probably be proficient to strong for most of the season, but that could be enough to chase most total you get set.

Mahindinho · 06-12-2006, 06:42 AM

Bardle and not that much else!

Personally, I'd stick to openers with a bit more concentration, and probably swap Aldred (or mawbe Gowshall) for Lea in the batting order. There are problems with both of those, though - Aldred will take a fitness hit if he bats for a while (although, set to attacking, he may not stick around all that long), while Gowshall is defensive.

You can just see how it goes, really - if Lea keeps getting knocked over cheaply, change thinigs.

Scaly piscine · 06-12-2006, 06:49 AM

Don't see a problem with a defensive opener, I stack my top order with players with steady or more negative style. It's only a problem if you play on a road.

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trevor_vayro U19 Vice-Captain Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wales, Nr Cardiff Posts: 526	BTW Mahindinho, I'm not referring to Swansea in my header - I do actually have to live just outside Cardiff these days, owing to work. To save typing it out over again, if you don't mind, I'll cut and paste from a previous post "However my main objection is commuting! When I first started working I tried and failed to commute back and forth to work, and in the end it was my deteriorating mental state brought about by trains, which led to me having to up sticks from my beloved God's city of Swansea, to move up here to Chav Central, AKA Cardiff. 'My deteriorating mental state' sounds a bit dramatic I suppose, I don't want you to go away thinking I'm some sort of nut-job, (well no more than you already do anyway!) but what I meant was that Great Western's sheer ineptitude was ruining my quality of life. In theory, it should have only taken me fifty minutes to get from Swansea to Cardiff and vice Versa, but in nine months of commuting, I think the bloody thing ran on time about twice! Mind you, this was in the immediate aftermath of the Hatfield rail crash, so maybe things have improved since. I was leaving the house at about half seven and not getting home some nights until gone nine. Although, having said I don't want you to think I'm some sort of nut-job, I think I was actually beginning to crack up:-) I developed a pathological hatred of those recorded announcements they have at train stations - You know the ones? "Ding dang dong - I'm sorry to announce that the 19:03 service to Swansea is delayed by approximately one hour and seventeen minutes - Owing to emergency speed restrictions on the Acton Main Line - First Great Western are extremely sorry for the severe delay to this service!" Two main problems with these: Firstly, how the **** can they say "I'm sorry to announce..."? It's a ***ing robot! - You can't be sorry, you're not real! Give me a human to shout at, I'll bloody well tell them what a misery they were making of my life - I'll make sure their extremely* sorry, don't you worry! And secondly, five minutes later the same announcement would come on again, giving the same excuse, but this time it would be an hour and twenty-five minutes late. A, how can it give the same excuse for getting even later, when one assumes that by this stage the train has already passed the aforementioned speed restrictions on the Acton Main Line? And B, how can it have possibly got another eight minutes late since the last announcement, which was only five minutes ago? I mean, surely to god, even if it had have stopped dead in it's tracks since the first announcement then it could still only have been another five minutes late? To have got eight minutes later in the space of five minutes it must actually have gone into reverse, and gone back up the track towards frigging Paddington!!!! Never trust train companies, , they lie to you! Also never trust men with centre partings, or anyone who has two Christian names instead of a proper surname, or anyone who calls you 'Chick' - Stick to those four basic rules and you won't go far wrong in life." Yes, quite a few of my good players are still getting trained. Staveley (21) is High Sup/Resp Bat, and is due for a Bat and Conc pop soon. I'll carry on training him for another couple of seasons, and hopefully he'll be Wand/Qual by his mid twenties. Greening (20) is currently Qual/Comp Bat, and due to turn Rem in the next month. Hopefully I can get him up to Sens before I'm done with him, but his Conc has, and I guess will continue to, hold him back from his true potential, so before he gets that far I might trade him in for a lower skilled, but younger and more rounded batsman. 20yo Keeper Noon is Resp WK and Prof/Resp Bat - And is due for a pop in all three in the near future. Guess he's not starting from a high enough position to make it worth training him indefinitely, like the other two, but I'll give him at least next season, by which time he'll hopefully be Sup/Sup Bat, and close to Sup WK. His batting should then be good enough to hold down a place in my middle order for the time being, and his keeping will be as good as I want really. I don't really have the statistical analysis to back this up, but I've got a hunch that you get diminishing returns from WKs, the higher up the levels you go. I mean, I don't think that there's the same difference in performance between a Prof WK and a Rem WK, as there would be between a Prof Bat or bowl and a Rem counterpart. I suppose that there are a limited amount of chances for keepers, and if you only get three chances then you can only take three catches, even if those three catches were so easy a Med WK could have taken them. Plus, if you get a proper Gun all-round WK, the wages are prohibitively expensive, certainly in comparison to their return in terms of performances. I don't know, I'd certainly say this is true at the level at which I'm playing, but perhaps when you get further up the leagues you need a better keeper to compete? Anyway, the other batting trainees are 21Yo Patel and 19YO Bennett. Patel is Prof/Resp Bat, and is only getting a net until he reaches Strong in a month or two, and only that because he's Sup/Feeb Lead and I'd like to keep him as captain of the side for as long as possible. Bennett is Prof/Med Bat, and due to hit Strong soon. He may go on to Qual/Strong or something, or I might flog him TBH, as he can only get runs in the middle order, which is a bit of a bind with a WK/Batsman and an All-rounder also in the top six. My only bowling trainee is 20YO Bewers. He's now Sup/Resp, and due for a Bowl and Cons pop before long. I'll persevere with him, and I guess he'll reach Wand/Qual in time. However, Bewers is a Cautious LM, so at some stage in the future I'll have to find the funds to buy a strike bowler. All-rounder Steve Cash (30) is getting one fielding net, out of curiosity as much as anything. He's Resp/Strong Bat and Strong/Comp Bowl, and I'm getting pretty regular secondary poppage out of him - Which is nice, though I'm not sure it's worth carrying on the experiment beyond the end of the season. I know that a lot of my trainees are getting on a bit, and that, in the long term, I'd get more change out of 17yo Resps, but with no money to bring in trainees without having to sacrifice a first team player, what can I do? I've figured that this group of players is good enough to succeed eventually, even if weaker teams overtake me in the short term. Later, Trev

05-12-2006, 11:07 AM	#1506 (permalink)
trevor_vayro U19 Vice-Captain Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wales, Nr Cardiff Posts: 526	Will Def pull Patel's net once he gets to Strong in the next month or so, but not sure if I should sell him. He's Comp Field, which is one of the better in my side, and Sup/Feeb lead, which would be difficult to top without going into the realms of 30-odd YO players, or internationals, who are way out of my price-range. Besides, Strong/Resp Bat will almost certainly be good enough to get in my top seven for another three seasons still. Although, on the other side of the coin, I'm yet to be convinced of how important captaincy is? A couple of seasons ago I switched my batting order around, but forgot to move the armband. Consequently a Feeb/Abs captain skippered us for a few matches before I noticed the mistake, with no appreciable difference in team performance. Perhaps it's another one of those things which won't come into its own until FC? So I can free up one net when Patel pops, and I suppose I could take cash's fielding net away? Do you think I'd get more change out of: A, two Bowling nets on Bewers? B, A Bowl and a Field on Bewers? C, as I am currently, a Bowl on Bewers and a Field on Cash? But not going to pull Staveley's batting net in favour of giving another to Greening. Partly because Staveley is my most consistent performer. Greening hits a spectacular knock one in four innings, but leaves the week-to-week donkey-work up to Staveley. And Secondly, given how far Greening's Conc lags behind his Batting, and how long it takes to train secondaries, (even with a WK net as he has currently), I'm not even sure if I'm going to keep Greening long term. Normally have an end-of-season fat camp, where I sack all the coaches, and replace them with 10 fitness coaches to get all the first XI up a level of Stam. But seeing as there's another delay in FC, and all the starting team are already Comp or better Stam, I don't think I'm going to bother this time, as I figure I'll get more out of just pressing on with the regular training over an extended closed season. BTW, don't worry about the centre parting - Speaking as a man who, through the course of his life, has sported both a mullet and bleached blond hair - I'm hardly in a position to give out fashion tips! Later, Trev

05-12-2006, 03:04 PM	#1508 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,529	Put a few guys on the market just in case anyone is interested: Peter Staunton (521224) RH Batsman, RM Bowler, abysmal batting form, woeful bowling form, sublime A destructive player with woeful leadership skills and abysmal experience. Plays For: Scaly Piscine CC Nationality: England Age: 23 Years Old Battrick Rating: 2,534 Wages: £618 p/w Stamina: feeble Wicket Keeping: worthless Batting: abysmal Concentration: abysmal Bowling: competent Consistency: feeble Fielding: feeble High competent, asking price is 50k. Farasat Lanewalla (55349) RH Batsman, RM Bowler, superb batting form, proficient bowling form, sublime A defensive player with woeful leadership skills and abysmal experience. Plays For: Scaly Piscine CC Nationality: Pakistan Age: 29 Years Old Battrick Rating: 4,979 Wages: £1,025 p/w Stamina: woeful Wicket Keeping: worthless Batting: respectable Concentration: feeble Bowling: worthless Consistency: woeful Fielding: woeful High respectable, asking price is 80k. Leon Gradley (976311) RH Batsman, RM Bowler, respectable batting form, woeful bowling form, sublime A cautious player with woeful leadership skills and worthless experience. Plays For: Scaly Piscine CC Nationality: England Age: 17 Years Old Battrick Rating: 3,192 Wages: £604 p/w Stamina: woeful Wicket Keeping: woeful Batting: mediocre Concentration: feeble Bowling: competent Consistency: woeful Fielding: worthless Middle of the levels, asking price is 50k.

06-12-2006, 06:42 AM	#1514 (permalink)
Mahindinho State Vice-Captain Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,230	Bardle and not that much else! Personally, I'd stick to openers with a bit more concentration, and probably swap Aldred (or mawbe Gowshall) for Lea in the batting order. There are problems with both of those, though - Aldred will take a fitness hit if he bats for a while (although, set to attacking, he may not stick around all that long), while Gowshall is defensive. You can just see how it goes, really - if Lea keeps getting knocked over cheaply, change thinigs.

06-12-2006, 06:49 AM	#1515 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,529	Don't see a problem with a defensive opener, I stack my top order with players with steady or more negative style. It's only a problem if you play on a road.

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