***Official*** CW-Battrick awards

[Robertinho]

No spot.

[Jamee999]

What about CW's youngest fielding coach?

[Robertinho]

1. David Armstrong - 19 yo, BT Rating=51,390
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, energetic
A cautious player with worthless leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: competent Wicket Keeping: respectable
Batting: proficient Concentration: sensational
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: proficient
Fielding: mediocre

Marvin Gray - 19 yo, BT Rating=34,709
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, invigorated
A defensive player with abysmal leadership skills and feeble experience.
Stamina: respectable Wicket Keeping: proficient
Batting: superb Concentration: quality
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: respectable
Fielding: feeble

How has he come since this post? Gray is shaping up nicely... finally he can be considered a decent keeper, batting is maybe 2-3 weeks from Quality... (10 weeks with 1 net for a 19yo). Also training his stamina, but probably a month until he gets to Prof.

[Scaly piscine]

Batting takes 13-14 weeks at 19yo with 1 net. Armstrong is the same but with exquisite concentration. He should pop in batting next week and in w/keeping in 3/4 weeks (at which point his concentration will probably pop again). He's two weeks from a stamina pop but I'm not training that at the moment.

[Robertinho]

Here's a possible team:

1. Fitz Watkins - wonderful bat
2. Jason Duggan - remarkable bat
3. Sol Cuss - wonderful bat
4. Satish Abdul kadir - quality bat
5. Grady Mccammon - wonderful bat
6. Marvin Gray - superb bat, proficient keeping
7. Dean Whitehorne - superb bat, sensational bowl
8. Swagat Moodley - wonderful bowl
9. Tel Lee - exceptional bowl
10. Junior Graham - remarkable bowl
11. Jason Lovegrove - exceptional bowl

I included Tel Lee just for the sake of it, incase nibbs gets him. The batting looks a little light, but Gray will soon be Quality and I couldn't think of any other remarkable+'s around here for Abdul kadir's spot? One hell of a bowling lineup, four NT/U19ers... Also, decided to not opt for having Watkins sending down his Superb twirlers, when we can have a much better bowling attack (and, like I've said, I couldn't think of any other batsmen around here who are remarkable+)

[nibbs]

tbh, if I could have Gray and Armstrong on my team, I'd prefer Gray

[Adamc]

Meh, give it a couple of seasons and Ashton will be better than both of them.

[Scaly piscine]

tbh, if I could have Gray and Armstrong on my team, I'd prefer Gray

Armstrong is about 1 1/2 batting levels behind Gray, 5 concentration levels better, better keeping and better keeping secondaries. Armstrong is better if you look at it objectively.

[Kweek]

surprised to see Graham in the team...he is a gun !

Bowling O M R W Ave SR Econ Best 5wi
Season 138 13 550 55 10.00 15.05 3.99 7-22 3
Career 324 32 1299 100 12.99 19.44 4.01 7-22 4

not bad is it!

Osman isnt doing to bad either!

Batting M I R n.o. Ave SR HS C st 50s 100s
Season 17 16 911 5 82.82 94.01 168 8 0 6 2
Career 69 68 3955 15 74.62 88.12 168 15 0 29 9

[dontcloseyoureyes]

I'd say good ol' Usmal would be in with a shout for Kadir's spot.

[Robertinho]

Armstrong is about 1 1/2 batting levels behind Gray, 5 concentration levels better, better keeping and better keeping secondaries. Armstrong is better if you look at it objectively.

Hey? Gray has superb batting, 3-4 weeks from quality, and proficient keeping - and, if I read your post right, Armstrong has proficient batting, 1 week from strong, and respectable keeping, 3-4 weeks from proficient.

If I look at it objectively? Are you suggesting the only reason that I'm selecting a player who is 2 levels ahead in batting, 1 level in stamina and keeping (at the moment, granted, but that's 3-4 weeks till he pops you say) is because I'm biased?

Yes, I do take into account Armstrong's incredible secondaries - but I don't think they make up for his being around 1/2 a level behind in keeping and 2 levels behind in batting. There was an Australian BT study where mounds and mounds of actual data supported the theory that secondaries contribute very little to keeping performance. That is why I don't think he is that far superior a keeper (though it is obvious he is ahead of Gray, I don't believe it's that great a gap, especially when you consider that Gray is ahead in keeping ability, of all things). And whilst I rate secondaries quite highly, I don't think Armstrong is as good a batsman.

[Scaly piscine]

batting is maybe 2-3 weeks from Quality... (10 weeks with 1 net for a 19yo).

If you think that then he's obviously not 2 levels better. My guy is already overdue for a batting pop and will almost certainly pop next week. So he's basically 8.95...ish batting. Whereas your guy is about 10.5 in batting... 1 and half levels difference.

I forgot to mention my guy is highish proficient keeping now not respectable.


1. David Armstrong - 19 yo, BT Rating=67,111
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, energetic
A cautious player with worthless leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: competent Wicket Keeping: proficient
Batting: proficient Concentration: exquisite
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: proficient
Fielding: mediocre

[dontcloseyoureyes]

I'd probably take Armstrong.

[Robertinho]

If you think that then he's obviously not 2 levels better. My guy is already overdue for a batting pop and will almost certainly pop next week. So he's basically 8.95...ish batting. Whereas your guy is about 10.5 in batting... 1 and half levels difference.

I forgot to mention my guy is highish proficient keeping now not respectable.


1. David Armstrong - 19 yo, BT Rating=67,111
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, energetic
A cautious player with worthless leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: competent Wicket Keeping: proficient
Batting: proficient Concentration: exquisite
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: proficient
Fielding: mediocre

If it's 13-14 weeks with 1 net, and Gray has had 10 weeks of 1 net, how is he 10.5? 10 + 10/13.5 comes closer to 10.75 for mine. And fair enough on the keeping call, like I said, Armstrong is the better keeper (and by a bit more than previously thought).

I wouldn't mind either, but my main point was that it's not so clear-cut a match up that the only thing compelling me to choose Gray is bias.

[Scaly piscine]

Oh right "10 weeks with 1 net for a 19yo" is supposed to mean "he's had 10 weeks with 1 net as a 19yo". In that case I'd have the batting about equal, but Armstrong is comfortably a better keeper and the stamina difference is small and doesn't effect anything at number 6 anyway.