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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    I'd be open to giving Roy a go down the order
    The problem is that batting hasn’t actually even been that much easier down the order. It’s just not been the type of series where you need a bat like Roy.

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    Roy has only got in due to proving his temperament in International Cricket and the lack of alternatives. If he bats at 4 and still comes in at 15/2 he’s probably still struggling.

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    He's not even looked like making a score.

    I think, in fairness to Roy and the other options, it's time to cut our losses. If he goes back to Surrey and scores a hat full then he might snag a gig on the winter tour, but enough now.
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    Can anyone that's any good with Statsguru tell me the last time Eng got to 100 before the fall of the 3rd wicket? Would be even longer since we've put on a 100 for the opening stand.

    What we wouldn't give to have even end of career Ali Cook in the side. It was so obvious we were going to be in this predicament when he retired.......that's why all those that were calling for his axing throughout the later part of his career were complete fools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adders View Post
    Can anyone that's any good with Statsguru tell me the last time Eng got to 100 before the fall of the 3rd wicket? Would be even longer since we've put on a 100 for the opening stand.

    What we wouldn't give to have even end of career Ali Cook in the side. It was so obvious we were going to be in this predicament when he retired.......that's why all those that were calling for his axing throughout the later part of his career were complete fools.
    The 2nd innings against Ireland the second wicket didn’t fall until 171.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adders View Post
    Can anyone that's any good with Statsguru tell me the last time Eng got to 100 before the fall of the 3rd wicket?
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    if you put him down the order you're still wasting root at #3 and roy still has to see reverse swing, spin, the second new ball etc

    it's a guptill situation - there's no place in test cricket for the specialist odi power opener anymore if they don't play late. even warner has his lean periods.

    this is also by far the best era for pace bowling since the 90s. there's nowhere for flawed openers to hide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    if you put him down the order you're still wasting root at #3 and roy still has to see reverse swing, spin, the second new ball etc

    it's a guptill situation - there's no place in test cricket for the specialist odi power opener anymore if they don't play late. even warner has his lean periods.

    this is also by far the best era for pace bowling since the 90s. there's nowhere for flawed openers to hide.
    Was there ever a period where an ODI power opener could score runs against non-junk attacks?

    Obviously the fact that at least 7 teams have quality pace attacks doesn't help though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    The OP looks genuinely quite foolish now tbh.
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    The OP was not suggesting hed be an instant success ?! Hes batting in a position hes not familiar with against one of the best attacks in the world!! The thread is more about keeping patience with him, three Ashes Tests in isnt conclusive for me, not sure any other opener would have fared any better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    if you put him down the order you're still wasting root at #3 and roy still has to see reverse swing, spin, the second new ball etc
    Tbh if Roy's facing the second new ball, I would consider moving him to 4 to have been an astounding success
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodster View Post
    The OP was not suggesting he’d be an instant success ?! He’s batting in a position he’s not familiar with against one of the best attacks in the world!! The thread is more about keeping patience with him, three Ashes Tests in isn’t conclusive for me, not sure any other opener would have fared any better.
    He's averaging less than 9 in this series ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
    He's averaging less than 9 in this series ffs.
    Yep......still not sure any other opener would have fared any better. It’s more a slur on our options rather than praise for Roy’s series record FFS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodster View Post
    Yep......still not sure any other opener would have fared any better. It’s more a slur on our options rather than praise for Roy’s series record FFS.
    Your #4 is a regular opener and he's at least made starts. Granted it's different opening but he probably would've done better than Roy, yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
    He's averaging less than 9 in this series ffs.
    I'm convinced woodster is a relative of Roy. Possibly his dad. He's been completely delusional about his credentials and performances in Tests throughout the whole the series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodster View Post
    The OP was not suggesting he’d be an instant success ?! He’s batting in a position he’s not familiar with against one of the best attacks in the world!! The thread is more about keeping patience with him, three Ashes Tests in isn’t conclusive for me, not sure any other opener would have fared any better.
    >one of the best attacks in the world
    >playing out of position

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