***Official*** 4th Test at the MCG

[T20_specialist]

In the NBA, we don’t play games once the finals are done.

I think revenue is a big factor here. Fans from both England and Australia would have paid good money to watch the game. Money talks that is the world we live in.

I saw a game I think it was in New Zealand where a fan won a lot of cash for catching a ball that was hit into the crowd, does this happen often? It’s a cool way to bring fans into the game and keep them involved.

 

[S.Kennedy]

I was reading something today about how television companies like BT are going to be more reluctant to bid on home side slanted test series with the inevitable drop-in ratings for the final few dead rubbers. It will become harder to justify the price.

 

[S.Kennedy]

In the NBA, we don’t play games once the finals are done.

I think revenue is a big factor here. Fans from both England and Australia would have paid good money to watch the game. Money talks that is the world we live in.

I saw a game I think it was in New Zealand where a fan won a lot of cash for catching a ball that was hit into the crowd, does this happen often? It’s a cool way to bring fans into the game and keep them involved.

You don't happen to be Michael Vaughan, do you?

 

[Spark]

Same thing as if the opposing player does it. Try to shut them up by doing well.

I mean, Mitchell Johnson eventually did. Should we discount what he said about the effect that chant had on him beforehand?

It's pretty wild to me that we get so agitated about one or two people hurling invective, but not several hundred.

 

[GotSpin]

I was reading something today about how television companies like BT are going to be more reluctant to bid on home side slanted test series with the inevitable drop-in ratings for the final few dead rubbers. It will become harder to justify the price.

The solution isn't that hard.

Just add an extra two weeks into the schedule for some tour games. It's not massive

 

[Gnske]

Yeah, that's the thing. We talk a lot about on-field sledging, but there's an element of consent to that in that it's coming from the actual players you're trying to beat, and you can do something about it (and indeed, the umpire can shut them up). If a section of the crowd starts singing all day about how awful you are about your profession, what are you meant to do?

Reminder to everyone in this thread that you can rape people with your words.

 

[S.Kennedy]

The solution isn't that hard.

Just add an extra two weeks into the schedule for some tour games. It's not massive

The way the authorities see it, a four-dayer against say New South Wales is never going to be as economically attractive as lumping on ever more international limited overs rubbish at the end of a test tour.

 

[Victor Ian]

Mob Mentality! How do you fight it? It infects everyone. I remember calling Hadlee a wanker. I agree though, that it would be nice if supporters had respect. That's people out on the ground they are abusing. It is particularly cruel to target weaker players with derision. Targeting the greats, I can almost accept, as a weird kind of reverse admiration.

 

[GotSpin]

The way the authorities see it, a four-dayer against say New South Wales is never going to be as economically attractive as lumping on ever more international limited overs rubbish at the end of a test tour.

It does if it makes the test series bring in more $$$$

 

[Spark]

Mob Mentality! How do you fight it? It infects everyone. I remember calling Hadlee a wanker. I agree though, that it would be nice if supporters had respect. That's people out on the ground they are abusing. It is particularly cruel to target weaker players with derision. Targeting the greats, I can almost accept, as a weird kind of reverse admiration.

Yeah, I'm not saying there are any clear lines here or indeed that there's anything clearly wrong. But it's really weird to me that we're all just okay with them going after Jackson Bird all day without even so much as a comment.

 

[S.Kennedy]

It does if it makes the test series bring in more $$$$

It is all about short term greed for the administrators, and doesn't some of these crap Twenty20 franchises make more money than test cricket now?

 

[Victor Ian]

Yep. Picking on Bird is piss poor.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Mob Mentality! How do you fight it? It infects everyone. I remember calling Hadlee a wanker. I agree though, that it would be nice if supporters had respect. That's people out on the ground they are abusing. It is particularly cruel to target weaker players with derision. Targeting the greats, I can almost accept, as a weird kind of reverse admiration.

I don't know why I find this so funny in this context

 

[oblongballs]

I once called Broad a girl, he just turned and laughed and carried on with his fielding. As long as none of the jabs are racially or religiously motivated and there isn't the use of swear words, players should be able to handle it. If it gets to the point where it crosses the lines, those fans need to be spotted and barred from the ground for life.

 

[GIMH]

Probably best you don’t ever visit an English football match Spark

 

[oblongballs]

Also, on the topic of ball tampering, what do you all think?

Jimmy and England are not denying he used his fingernail, the excuse is simply that he was trying to flatten a piece of leather. Does that not count as changing the condition of the ball outside of natural bounds? I can name a couple of countries which would have had players banned for less than that.

 

[GIMH]

Ugh.. you guys have no right to complain about Test cricket dying.

Drivel

Maybe take it a step further and ban everyone except English and Australian posters from posting about the precious Ashes

Well said

 

[Spark]

Probably best you don’t ever visit an English football match Spark

I've actually had football in mind the whole time tbf. Genuinely torn about it there too, but there I feel it's a lot more part of the culture of the sport, where as the Barmy Army is definitely an outlier here. Otherwise it's mostly just random abuse "calling Hadlee/KP/Broad a wanker" which we all mostly agree is pretty dead**** behavior.

 

[Spark]

Also, on the topic of ball tampering, what do you all think?

Jimmy and England are not denying he used his fingernail, the excuse is simply that he was trying to flatten a piece of leather. Does that not count as changing the condition of the ball outside of natural bounds? I can name a couple of countries which would have had players banned for less than that.

Like I said earlier, good on him for trying to make something interesting happen in the game.

 

[vcs]

Drivel



Well said

Yes, constantly posting about how you will smash everyone 5-0 is so much more insightful