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    10 years of winning The Ashes England XI

    A bit jingoistic perhaps, but having spent 16 years believing we'd never win the Ashes again in my lifetime it seems to just keep on coming.

    This is off the top of my head with no reference to stats or score cards, so there maybe obvious omissions but I couldn't give a monkey's.

    Cook
    Vaughan
    Bell
    Pietersen
    Root
    Prior
    Flintoff
    Swan
    Broad
    Hoggard
    Anderson

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    Trescothick for Vaughan and maybe Tremlett or Bresnan for Hoggard? In fact I'd say Harmison belongs ahead of Hoggard too, given they were pretty much equals in 05 and Harmy was reasonable enough at The Oval in 09z

    And actually surely Trott belongs in there? But not sure who instead of as Bell's 2013 series earns him a slot if nothing else

    Tough one

    Edit - surely simon Jones is worthy of inclusion in Hoggard's place

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    Only person Harmison belongs ahead of is Saj Mahmood and even that's debatable.
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    Interesting thing about Vaughan, he was great when we lost the Ashes, but pretty awful during and after we'd won it. Whilst Tres was pretty poor against Oz in general but had a decent series in 2005 despite not getting a ton. Yet it's probably got to be Strauss annoyingly.

    Can't argue with the rest of the side, actually picks itself more than I'd have thought, Trott for Bell another thought perhaps, I'm sure one that Furball will agree with, but Bell is the only one who has featured in all the wins.
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    Strauss is a must. Instrumental in three of the five wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furball View Post
    Only person Harmison belongs ahead of is Saj Mahmood and even that's debatable.
    Well it's certainly not debatable given Mahmood played in no Ashes wins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    Strauss is a must. Instrumental in three of the five wins.
    Yeah, as Vaughan had his great series before we won then I think Strauss comes in for him

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    Vaughan in 2002/3 was just about the best batting I've ever seen in Aus from an opposition player.
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    Funny how the "10 years of winning the Ashes" includes two 5-0 losses

    Don't think that's ever happened before

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJediBrah View Post
    Funny how the "10 years of winning the Ashes" includes two 5-0 losses

    Don't think that's ever happened before
    Got to lose to win.

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    Strauss ahead of Bell imo

    Bell's played some good knocks, but he's had a few terrible Ashes as well (2005, 2006/07, 2013/14, 2015)

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    06-07 and 13-14 are irrelevant to this thread

    Cook
    Strauss
    Trott
    Root
    Pietersen
    Prior
    Flintoff
    Broad
    Swann
    Anderson
    S Jones

    Stiff on Bell but Trott's 10-11 and Root's this summer probably trump his 2013

    Having thought about it, no Bell is the only thing I'd be prepared to negotiate

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    Broad - the best England Ashes bowler of my life
    Strauss - embarrassed that I called for Trescothick on first glance. Strauss was good in 05, perfect foil to Cook in 10-11 and outstanding in 09. Champion

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJediBrah View Post
    Strauss ahead of Bell imo

    Bell's played some good knocks, but he's had a few terrible Ashes as well (2005, 2006/07, 2013/14, 2015)
    But no Bell no win in 2013, Strauss had Trott in '09. I'm not a big fan of Bell at all but I think he makes this English side

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    Trott had a good debut in 09 but Strauss was MOTS. Not sure what he has to do with Strauss's success.

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    Bell over Root imo. Both had summers where they were England's batting, and also other summers were they average but did occasionally contribute. But Bell has 10/11 which Root doesn't have.

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