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    Combined Ashes XI after 4 tests

    Rogers (c)
    Warner
    Smith
    Bell
    Root
    Stokes
    Buttler (wk)
    Starc
    Broad
    Lyon
    Anderson

    Cook missing out to Warner and Nev missing out to Buttler probably the only controversial picks here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    Rogers (c)
    Warner
    Smith
    Bell
    Root
    Stokes
    Buttler (wk)
    Starc
    Broad
    Lyon

    Cook missing out to Warner and Nev missing out to Buttler probably the only controversial picks here.
    The other controversy is deciding to pick only 10 players.
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    Anderson in there as well but yeah I agree.

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    Rogers
    Cook
    Warner
    Smith
    Root
    Stokes
    Nevill
    Broad
    Starc
    Anderson
    Lyon

    Going with all 3 of Rogers, Cook and Warner. Apart from Root and Smith at Lord's all the middle order options have been pretty poor, those three have at least been decent. Nevill's been slightly better than Buttler IMO, and I'll go Starc and Anderson for the other two quicks in what has been a tightish field.
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    1 Rogers
    2 Warner
    3 Cook c
    4 Root
    5 Bell
    6 Stokes
    7 Buttler
    8 Broad
    9 Lyon
    10 Anderson
    11 Finn

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    Not sure moving Warner or Cook to 3 is really in the spirit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    The other controversy is deciding to pick only 10 players.
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    Anderson in there as well but yeah I agree.
    Brain thought Anderson, fingers didn't type it.

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    Cook
    Rodgers
    Bell
    Root
    Smith
    Stokes
    Nevill
    Starc
    Broad
    Anderson
    Lyon (I'd have picked Finn but I guess a team w/out a spinner would be against the spirit of it)

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    Cook over Warner.

    Warner's downhill skiied a couple of times or scored meaningless 2nd innings runs (see Trent Bridge.) Cook's 40 odd at Trent Bridge was much more valuable in the context of the game.

    Plus Cook's captaincy has been good.
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    Bell's almost unanimous selection whilst averaging about 30 for the series just about sums up the state of the middle order batsmanship that we've seen.

    I'd have to agree with Rogers, Cook, Warner, Smith, Root and Stokes in the top 6.
    Probably Nevill at 7.
    Definitely Lyon as spinner.
    And as it's in England, Broad, Anderson and whichever of Starc, Finn and Hazelden has his radar sorted on the day.
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    Warner
    Rogers
    Cook
    Root
    Smith/Bell
    Stokes
    Nevill
    Starc
    Broad
    Lyon
    Anderson

    Bell if based on results, Smith if using common sense

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    The sad thing about this is the middle order. Both sides have had really poor middle orders (Root and Smith notwithstanding). Particularly the #4 position this series has been attrocious. Bell is a shoe-in for that position with an average of around 30. Awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Warner
    Rogers
    Cook
    Root
    Smith/Bell
    Stokes
    Nevill
    Starc
    Broad
    Lyon
    Anderson

    Bell if based on results, Smith if using common sense
    Smith has far better results than Bell AFAIC.

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    If we factor in this Test then Smith becomes a lot more credible.

    But if I'm not mistaken, before this Test and outside of Lord's he's failed almost every time. Whereas Bell, while not great, has put on a few useful 50s that were huge in the context of their match as much as Smith's 200 was at Lord's.

    I can understand going either way, based on the four Tests so far. But unless Bell goes big here then I don't think there's a case of him making a series XI ahead of Smith after five Tests.
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    Bell's runs at Cardiff and, especially, Edgbaston were vital tbf. But no way does he get picked ahead of Smith.

    Voges putting a late run to replace Stokes if we're happy with four bowlers.

    And Cook's captaincy taking a hit with the decision to insert at The Oval.
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