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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    It is interesting that England fans have generally focused on Lyth's struggles so much more than Buttler's when they've performed very much the same with the bat.

    If England wanted to give Rashid a game they could give Bairstow the gloves and drop Jos. Shouldn't happen, just saying it is an alternative.
    In the end Jos has kept well though hasn't he and his overall test record is better then the other JB, who looks an hideous 'keeper the last few times I've seen him. So better keeper them Bairstow, overall better bat then Bairstow or Lyth, so it's not an huge surprise we're not focusing on him, though he has been disappointing with the bat this series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grecian View Post
    In the end Jos has kept well though hasn't he and his overall test record is better then the other JB, who looks an hideous 'keeper the last few times I've seen him. So better keeper them Bairstow, overall better bat then Bairstow or Lyth, so it's not an huge surprise we're not focusing on him, though he has been disappointing with the bat this series.
    Yeah his keeping has been fine throughout the series. I don't feel as though Jos is a better bat than Jonny but Jos looks like he'd make the opposition pay more when in form.

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    Jos keeping has been fine. Why invent problems?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangles View Post
    Jos keeping has been fine. Why invent problems?
    It's cricket chat. I just wanted to point out the discrepancy between Lyth out vs Buttler out talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangles View Post
    Jos keeping has been fine. Why invent problems?
    'cause he's made **** all runs and looked largely terrible every time at the crease? Not advocating dropping him or anything, but it's a fair point to make. Though I guess with Moeen in the team you can maybe carry a keeper without runs as long as his keeping is up to snuff.

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    bring in some you talent without the surname Marsh.

    preferably if that surname is Watson and they are actually in their thirties.
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    surely Furball gets banned for not putting the dates of the test in the opening post? Don't call it Official and then give no details ya bum.
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    I am going to contradict everything I said when he was first picked and advocate the selection of Cummins in place of MJ

    The latter has tried hard and been pretty unlucky but he's 34 and just not that suited to English conditions anyway

    Cummins may well turn out to be a future great and if he is fit, one match wont do him any harm

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    i'd be shocked if cummins and siddle didn't play in the last test. it's just whether Starc is rested/ruled out or if they actually drop MJ. I suppose they could go insane and pick 5 bowlers and bat the keeper at 6 like last time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Will be annoyed if we select like at the Oval two years ago.

    It's the Ashes. Don't take the piss.
    100%. There are no dead rubbers in Ashes cricket so now is no time to be resting/trialing players. Jimmy excepted if the team that played at Trent Bridge is our best 11 then that is the team that should play at the Oval (unless they do think it will take spin)

    We want 4-1 here and 3-2 will be a big disappointment after the mauling we've dished out in the last 2 tests.
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    Moeen to open is a potential shout. Could give us a chance to have a look at Rashid. With Lyth looking like a walking edge (ironic he's said to be out of nick when all he's done is nick all series) it won't dramatically weaken the batting and potentially solves two problems at a stroke.

    Gut feeling is we'll given the follicularly challenged Frenchman The Oval to prove his worth though.
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    I'm not convinced about Moeen batting up the order. He makes quick runs, but at test level I think he'd be found out.

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    I don't understand why people want to mess with the team balance to bring in yet another bowler in Rashid. The five bowler combination of Stokes, Ali, Broad with Finn, Wood and Anderson has given England 70 wickets in 4 test matches for 3 wins. That does not need further strengthening.

    The batting on the other hand is about 31 runs per wicket for 61 wickets lost. Australia is about 29 runs. English bowlers incl Ali all round performances and Joe Root have won this Ashes. Lyth should be replaced, if by anyone, a batsman, not another bowler or bowling allrounder. Ali at 8 permits England to carry Stokes' batting at 6 with less detriment. Ali is one of the best #8's around after Ashwin.

    Sure replace Lyth, but he needs to be replaced with the best batting option to keep England strong in my opinion. Start playing 6 bowlers, and it looks far more fragile than having the class of Ali at 8.
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