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    Think siddle is more likely to play 10 or more tests in the future than MJ is tbh
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    Stoinis looking good for a gig at #6 I guess, could be worse options than trialling him in Bangladesh alongside two spinners.
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    Just change your name to "West Island" and become part of a winning team.

    Well, Warner/Smith/Johnson/Lyon can become part of one. The rest can play some Hawke Cup or Sydney Grade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    I have issue with this whole 'Clarke is done' stuff, for the reason that a) he's batted no worse than 5 other guys in the squad (Haddin, Voges, Marsh, Watson, Marsh) and b) he still brings his captaincy to the table.

    Does he have long left? Clearly not, but FMD there isn't a whole lot of international-ready batting talent sitting in domestic cricket smashing the door down. When you've got one other middle order spot to fill, a misfiring all-rounder, and a retiring opener, shoving Clarke out of the way seems a bit premature.

    Basically, if its Marsh or Clarke to go after this series, make it Marsh discarded.

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    2. Cowan (seriously, look at the opening options we have; a guy who regularly faces 50+ balls is what we need here)
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    4. Burns
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    6. MMarsh/Batsman
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    I did completely forget about Cowan. I wouldn't pick him, but he belongs in the discussion since I did just include about 15 other names. One thing that I agree with is Joe Burns at number 4.
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    Joe Burns has been poorly treated imo, score two half centuries in 2 tests so to not even tour is very stiff (unless he was injured?).

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    Still not sold on Smith at 3. In his favour though he's not likely to get conditions like this for a while.
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    I don't know what to do with Clarke.

    I agree that Marsh and Voges should be before him on the chopping block, but I just can't see him scoring significant runs in the future. The issue is with Rogers retiring as well, our batting order is going to look very inexperienced. And I'm not sure if going for say a Ferguson or a Klinger for Clarke will help, given Voges's success so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    Think siddle is more likely to play 10 or more tests in the future than MJ is tbh
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    Joe Burns has been poorly treated imo, score two half centuries in 2 tests so to not even tour is very stiff (unless he was injured?).
    He is fit and has been fit, just omitted. I guess in fairness he only played Tests because Clarke was injured. I'm not sure if you watched his twin 50s but they were in very easy conditions. I was happy for him to make a score, but coming in at 4-415 against India in Australia is going to be easier than the current conditions in England, where Burns has struggled for Middlesex scoring 320 runs @ 29.09 this season.

    In saying that, I like Burns but I don't think he was poorly treated, but should be right back in contention definitely and shouldn't have his 'cards marked' or anything from his Test career like others such as Bailey probably have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    2. Cowan (seriously, look at the opening options we have; a guy who regularly faces 50+ balls is what we need here)
    I don't want to encourage this but it's exactly what they should do for the New Zealand series. There's a chance it'll swing, we have two of the better swing bowlers in the world and they'll need a guy who can leave well.

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    Haddin Harris and Rogers are done for.

    Don't think Watto, Clarke or SMarsh will be discarded just yet.

    Voges is borderline - he needs to score will in these last 3 innings.

    Siddle might be done for. If he couldn't get a game on this pitch, then I fail to see his role in the side.

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    Klinger surely deserves a go. He's getting closer to the end now though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    Australia A are currently doing a number on India A in India so the cupboard is hardly bare

    Add in the return of Pattinson, Cummins, etc and the future is bright IN AUSTRALIA

    Disappointing aspect of this tour is how few players have adapted to foreign conditions AGAIN
    I think Pattinson is possibly the best bowler in Australia. But the problem with Australia is not the bowling. Everyone knows that Australia can replace the Mitchs or Hazelwood, should they choose too. Cummins is on the tour, but he is a walking injury ward. You still have Bird back home as well. And many more seam bowlers with unlimited potential.

    The issue is the batting. And if Rogers retires at the conclusion of the Ashes, the situation gets more bleak.
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    If it does happen, it will be a gross over reaction.

    Not too long ago Mitchell Marsh was being tipped as future captain?

    And I don't see a lot of guys who are better than S Marsh, Vogues and Clarke in the middle order to be honest.

    Haddin, Watson, Rogers not playing again is understandable although I would probably try to convince Rogers to play another year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Warrior View Post
    If it does happen, it will be a gross over reaction.

    Not too long ago Mitchell Marsh was being tipped as future captain?

    And I don't see a lot of guys who are better than S Marsh, Vogues and Clarke in the middle order to be honest.

    Haddin, Watson, Rogers not playing again is understandable although I would probably try to convince Rogers to play another year.
    Marsh would've only been tipped as that by the sycophantic 9 commentators.

    You're right though, until Jake Doran gets a couple of seasons under his belt there's bugger all else.

    On Rogers - does the pink (elephant) ball have anything to do with the fact he's retiring before the day-night Test?

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    Marsh was the under 19 Australia captain, so that would have happen to do with it too.

    Pretty sure Rogers said he'd retire long before the Day Night Test was made official. He might change his mind though and just sit out a Test.

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