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    1st test

    Cook 6 - above average performance based surprisingly enough on captaincy. Took some top catches
    Lyth 4 - jury's still out and i think they've booked into the bed & breakfast
    Ballance 5 - did actually make some important runs, forgettable they may have been
    Bell 5 - probably the same impact as Ballance, regardless of how much nicer his 50 looked
    Root 9 - actually jesus
    Stokes 7 - good partnerships in both innings. Bowled tidily
    Buttler 6 - critics have gone very quiet about his keeping despite the difficult surface
    Ali 8 - runs and wickets. the icc player rankings now consider him a better allrounder than Tim Southee. I'm sure he'll be thrilled
    Broad 8 - pick of the bowlers, was sublime on the 4th morning, and pretty good the rest of the time
    Wood 7 - stay fit please
    Anderson 7 - new ball etc etc

    Warner 5 - same score as Ballance
    Rogers 7 - copped the most testing of the bowling in both innings, top scored anyway
    Smith 5 - meh test all round
    Clarke 4 - must be one of his worst matches in recent times
    Voges 4 - meh
    Watson 4 - man there were a lot of just-about-sub-par performances in the Aus batting order. At least Watson has made it kinda his thing
    Haddin 2 - snrk
    Johnson 3 - not sure how much his innings - after the game was over - was worth to give him points over Haddin. Just as much to blame for England's big total first up
    Starc 7 - took wickets with top deliveries. Think people have been a bit harsh on him
    Hazlewood 7 - solid
    Lyon 8 - pick of the Aus attack, got by far the most out of the wicket. Mixed it up nicely
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    Looks about right. But Ballance's runs were definitely more important than Bell's imo. England could've been rolled over if not for the Ballance-Root stand.
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    Thinking about it in terms of player performance, one of the main reasons this has to be Watson's last test for me is that I really don't think he played that badly, relative to his capabilities. Unlike a lot of the Australian batsmen he didn't get out playing a stupid shot, he applied himself well with the bat and got in during both innings, batting at a pretty testing time against good bowling when other players were getting out, played a few nice shots when the ball was there to hit etc and didn't play and miss too much. Basically he looked to be in pretty good form and working hard, following on from making runs in the warmups. Then he just missed a straight one. With the ball he did okay but wasn't given a lot of overs, definitely should have bowled more in the first innings given the circumstances and why he was picked, but if Clarke didn't throw him the ball that much during this test he's not going to be bowling more throughout the series. Where I can see Smith, Clarke etc having much better games, Watson is more in the Lyon and Rogers camp of playing about as well as I can see them playing in the series, and his output just wasn't good enough. He's just not going to get any better as a player, it's time to either pick a sixth specialist batsman or pick Mitchell Marsh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    1st test

    Cook 6 - above average performance based surprisingly enough on captaincy. Took some top catches
    Lyth 4 - jury's still out and i think they've booked into the bed & breakfast
    Ballance 5 - did actually make some important runs, forgettable they may have been
    Bell 5 - probably the same impact as Ballance, regardless of how much nicer his 50 looked
    Root 9 - actually jesus
    Stokes 7 - good partnerships in both innings. Bowled tidily
    Buttler 6 - critics have gone very quiet about his keeping despite the difficult surface
    Ali 8 - runs and wickets. the icc player rankings now consider him a better allrounder than Tim Southee. I'm sure he'll be thrilled
    Broad 8 - pick of the bowlers, was sublime on the 4th morning, and pretty good the rest of the time
    Wood 7 - stay fit please
    Anderson 7 - new ball etc etc

    Warner 5 - same score as Ballance
    Rogers 7 - copped the most testing of the bowling in both innings, top scored anyway
    Smith 5 - meh test all round
    Clarke 4 - must be one of his worst matches in recent times
    Voges 4 - meh
    Watson 4 - man there were a lot of just-about-sub-par performances in the Aus batting order. At least Watson has made it kinda his thing
    Haddin 2 - snrk
    Johnson 3 - not sure how much his innings - after the game was over - was worth to give him points over Haddin. Just as much to blame for England's big total first up
    Starc 7 - took wickets with top deliveries. Think people have been a bit harsh on him
    Hazlewood 7 - solid
    Lyon 8 - pick of the Aus attack, got by far the most out of the wicket. Mixed it up nicely
    Pretty much. I suppose Root only loses that point for dropping Rogers yesterday.
    But I think Lyth's safe enough whatever happens at Lord's.


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    Pretty Similar to Howe's rating

    Cook 5.5 - 5.5 points for captaincy.
    Lyth 4
    Ballance 6
    Bell 5
    Root 9
    Stokes 7
    Buttler 6
    Ali 8
    Broad 8.5 - bowled awesome yesterday and done well the entire test
    Wood 7.5
    Anderson 7.5

    Warner 4 - threw away good start in the first innings, looked quite clueless in the second but somehow made "the worst fifty of all time"
    Rogers 7.5
    Smith 4.5
    Clarke 4 - mediocre captaincy
    Voges 3 - ew dismissals
    Watson 10 - ATGReviews/10, delivered the lulz. Found this on FB : "What's the difference between sherlock holmes and Australian cricket team?? Watson was slightly helpful to sherlock..."
    Haddin 2 - Bad Handling
    Johnson 4
    Starc 6
    Hazlewood 7
    Lyon 8

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad View Post
    Thinking about it in terms of player performance, one of the main reasons this has to be Watson's last test for me is that I really don't think he played that badly, relative to his capabilities. Unlike a lot of the Australian batsmen he didn't get out playing a stupid shot, he applied himself well with the bat and got in during both innings, batting at a pretty testing time against good bowling when other players were getting out, played a few nice shots when the ball was there to hit etc and didn't play and miss too much. Basically he looked to be in pretty good form and working hard, following on from making runs in the warmups. Then he just missed a straight one. With the ball he did okay but wasn't given a lot of overs, definitely should have bowled more in the first innings given the circumstances and why he was picked, but if Clarke didn't throw him the ball that much during this test he's not going to be bowling more throughout the series. Where I can see Smith, Clarke etc having much better games, Watson is more in the Lyon and Rogers camp of playing about as well as I can see them playing in the series, and his output just wasn't good enough. He's just not going to get any better as a player, it's time to either pick a sixth specialist batsman or pick Mitchell Marsh.
    yeah this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad View Post
    Thinking about it in terms of player performance, one of the main reasons this has to be Watson's last test for me is that I really don't think he played that badly, relative to his capabilities. Unlike a lot of the Australian batsmen he didn't get out playing a stupid shot, he applied himself well with the bat and got in during both innings, batting at a pretty testing time against good bowling when other players were getting out, played a few nice shots when the ball was there to hit etc and didn't play and miss too much. Basically he looked to be in pretty good form and working hard, following on from making runs in the warmups. Then he just missed a straight one. With the ball he did okay but wasn't given a lot of overs, definitely should have bowled more in the first innings given the circumstances and why he was picked, but if Clarke didn't throw him the ball that much during this test he's not going to be bowling more throughout the series. Where I can see Smith, Clarke etc having much better games, Watson is more in the Lyon and Rogers camp of playing about as well as I can see them playing in the series, and his output just wasn't good enough. He's just not going to get any better as a player, it's time to either pick a sixth specialist batsman or pick Mitchell Marsh.
    Even Faaip has turned. A dark day for Watson.

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    My favourite internet comment on Watson so far has been that, as an allrounder, he's a mix of David Boon and Glenn McGrath. He bowls like Boon and bats like McGrath.
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    Young Shane is copping way too much criticism for my liking. Wait till he fully realizes his potential
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    Quote Originally Posted by Son Of Coco View Post
    My favourite internet comment on Watson so far has been that, as an allrounder, he's a mix of David Boon and Glenn McGrath. He bowls like Boon and bats like McGrath.
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    England:
    Cook - 4/10 He is good at captaining but it stops there in my mind
    Lyth - 3/10 remember 5 is average, he is definitely worse than average
    Ballance - 5/10 getting sixty odd saved him
    Bell - 6/10 given his experience and his sixty I think he is key too england but is out of form
    Root - 9/10 unbreakable
    Stokes - 6/10 can stuff up australias confidence so quickly but his bowling lets him down, terrible action means he slants across pads
    Butler - 4/10 don't rate him at all really batting wise, but at lease he didnt drop the game
    Ali - 8/10 deserves to be a top 6 batsmen, good whilst not being great with the ball but picked up 3 or 4 absolutely key wickets
    Broad - 4/10 wastes the new ball compared to jimmy, can't bat anymore but puts the balls in a good spot and his height is an advantage
    Wood - 4/10 he could be somethying big if someone took him aside and fixed up his run up, currently not so usefull though
    Anderson - 10/10 best swing bowling with that second new ball I have EVER seen, rediculous stuff amazing player and couldnt give two ****s about his batting

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    Rogers - 6/10 good form of late, needs to step up in conditions he has mastered
    Warner - 8/10 amazing player but can throw his wicket away
    Smith - 8/10 inform but will be found out with his technique and once he looses form
    Clarke - 7/10 once was amazing, not amazing anymore but still exceedingly good
    Voges - 3/10 lucky once, needs to go though
    Watson - 6/10 amazing technique, out of form, found out with LBW, good bowler, needs to find a few runs though or he goes
    Haddin - 4/10 dropped that game, out of form with bat, annoyed me a lot how he threw his wicket away in fourth innings when we could have pushed for rain delay and therefore possibly draw
    Johnson - 8/10 great bowler, out of form, batting is good and its nice to see him get runs
    Starc - 6/10 next big thing but hes not phenomenal yet
    Hazlewood - 7/10 also a future star especially if he could find 10 or 15 km more pace
    Lyon - 6/10 great offspiner if the pitch is right for him, but if it isn't though he may be effective his wickets can come from slog artists taking him on which i suppose is from dot ball pressure and all.
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    your a legend finally someone who agrees with me

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    Best bit is Hazlewood finding "10 to 15 km more pace", making him probably the fastest bowler in the world. Would probably make him pretty decent.

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    Johnson 3 haha. Bowled quite well in the 2nd innings and scored 77 when everyone else sucked balls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.ag View Post
    Johnson 3 haha. Bowled quite well in the 2nd innings and scored 77 when everyone else sucked balls.
    Yeah I forgot he was pretty decent in the second innings. Probably deserves a middling rating. I'm just not moved by his runs - the fields he was batting against showed England certainly weren't

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