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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    Cook looked good first innings until Lyon came on, and then it was weird. I don't expect him to do that again.
    He got out in basically the exact same way twice when set in Aus last time. It's a go to shot for him against the spinners, but Lyon's bounce seems to trouble him.
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    Compton shouldn't have been dropped at the time but he is not the man now.
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    Cook 6 and Lyth 4 seems a bit off. Cook had a good game as captain, but he doesn't deserve better than average for his 32 runs. Lyth had a below average game, but his 2nd innings partnership with Bell was vital in the context of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    That's just a measure of who was batting well at the time though. Lyth was meant to be the next big thing about 5 years ago, Boycott was singing is praises and he was playing for the Lions. Then he had a crap season in 2011 and people forgot about him for a bit.
    At that time Lyth was settled in the Yorkshire team and scoring plenty.

    Lees was a comparative new boy but they both considered him a superior talent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Biryani Pillow View Post
    At that time Lyth was settled in the Yorkshire team and scoring plenty.

    Lees was a comparative new boy but they both considered him a superior talent.
    Lees is having a **** time of it now to be fair. Bairstow and Leaning are the big thing at the moment

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    Cook: Batting arguably as well as he did at his peak a few years ago, considering the much higher quality of bowling he's facing compared to then. Captained well too. Not gonna be too harsh on his last dig dismissal when it was there to be hit and he'd barely sat down for four days. 8/10
    Lyth: Doesn't really look up to it, tbh. I don't think his technical issues are nearly as massive as the next entrant in this list, but I'm with Uppercut on this - he just doesn't seem to have the talent at this stage (and he isn't exactly young). Dropped catch when he's supposed to be good in the cordon doesn't help either. 1/10
    Ballance: I'll repeat what I've been saying for ages now - send him back to county cricket, but fire his batting coach(es) first. He'd be far better served IMO just standing there and hitting the ball rather than trying to work out all these technical quirks, right now he's flat-out guessing where the ball will be every time it's pitched in his half. 2/10
    Bell: Complete non-entity. Worth considering how a bloke with 110+ Tests under his belt and, as such, should be one of the natural leaders in the team, can look so anonymous in such an inexperienced side. 1/10 and lucky to get that.
    Root: Will be interested to see how he deals with this new tactic at Edgbaston if the pitch is indeed a little quicker, but he can't be expected to save England all the time. 3/10
    Stokes: Love his approach to batting, it's so straightforward and, in contrast to some of his top order colleagues, just makes it look a simple game. Bowling needs work (and luck). 7/10
    Buttler: What's he doing fiddling around and poking at the crease? Just hit the damn thing ffs. Kept well, though. 4/10
    Ali: I'm actually much less convinced by his batting than many people, but given where he bats he does a job. His bowling what it is, it's not reasonable to expect much more and nor is it really his job to do much more. 6/10
    Broad: The bowler of the series thus far. Accurate, intelligent, and consistently probing fast bowling, repeatedly posing questions at the batsmen when he's receiving little assistance from either pitch or teammates. I have to admire the clear amount of effort he's putting into his batting too, even if he does still look like he's batting on a hot plate with a stick at times. 8/10
    Wood: Not reasonable to expect him to have the weapons or the know-how to remove or contain set world-class batsmen on a pitch like this. Tried hard, though. 4/10
    Anderson: If England want to shorten his career as much as possible, they should continue rolling out decks like this. 2/10

    Warner: First innings dismissal was ****ing braindead. Second innings doesn't entirely ameliorate that. 5/10
    Rogers: Really hope he's okay for the rest of the series. 9/10
    Smith: Pretty much the only way to stop him is to win the toss as the oppo captain at this point. 9/10
    Clarke: A problem. Hopefully the second innings will help him, but I'm not about to put much stock on that. Captained as he does, particularly enjoyed the dual four slips and four legside catchers at points this afternoon. 4/10
    Voges: Also a problem. Should get the next Test, but will want to make a score there. 3/10
    MMarsh: I half-expected him to do well, but not like that. Did considerably more than was expected of him (given that the match situation meant that not much was expected - required, more precisely - from him). 7/10
    Nevill: Should have gone for that catch this afternoon, otherwise did everything that could have been expected of him. 6/10
    Johnson: Superb. Hostile, intelligent, fast bowling. 8/10
    Starc: Still doesn't quite know how to get wickets when it's not swinging, but he's not spraying it all over the place at least. 6/10
    Haze: The general sentiment is that he didn't bowl as well as he could have, and I'd agree, but still took five at roughly 3/over - the simplicity of his bowling style means that even when he's slightly off, he'll still take a few. 7/10
    Lyon: Did his job, did it well. 7/10
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    Those ratings for the Aussie bowlers don't really add up to the team's bowling performance, which I thought was excellent. Averaging out at 7 when taken as a whole it was at least an 8.
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    Yeah indeed. There's a case of ratings saturation in play there though, I tend not to give as many really high ratings. There is definitely a case of the attack as a whole functioning as more than the sum of its parts.

    I thought hard about giving Johnson a 9/10 tbh (maybe MMarsh an 8?). Him aside, the rest really just did the jobs they were required to do and whilst they didn't excel individually, as a whole it made life very, very unpleasant for the English bats. An insight into how bowling actually works, perhaps - as a whole they're probably near enough to 9/10 considering the pitch.
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    I mean the ratings even for the whole side don't accurately reflect the match. I don't think Australia, or any other team, could actually have played a more complete game of cricket than they did.

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    Stokes getting a 7/10 is way too high, before even considering he should get 0 just for that run out.
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    Tbf I don't actually care that much about anything that happened today. (or yesterday to be more precise)

    Game was already lost, just a question of how bad it looked.

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    It might not have been lost if Stokes and Cook hadn't thrown away big tons when it was still pretty close to the best batting conditions.
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    Yeah fair point

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    You'd have to give Rogers and Smith 10s to give the Aussie bowlers an average of 8.

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