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    Has Jos Buttler put a case for a test place forward?

    Hi all,

    Buttler is consistently getting runs in ODI and T20 cricket, and with Prior and Bairstow not looking up to scratch as of late I was wondering if you guys think he should be given a chance? Averages low 30's in FC cricket which granted is lower than Prior's (39) and Bairstow's (40) averages in FC cricket. I think with his move to Lancashire to become the first choice keeper it won't be long until we see this guy in the test side.

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    Nah. Most of us who'd seen him play in one day cricket for Somerset knew he could be potentially a very good ODI player. He was simply outstanding and way above basically every one else in 40 over county cricket. He hasn't shown anywhere near the same aptitude in 4 day cricket. Looks dodgy vs medium- quick bowling just outside the offstump a bit like Bailey. His one days skills don't translate brilliantly to 4 day cricket- talented tho he is.

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    No, in the same way that Morgan hasn't by scoring a ton today. Buttler has to go to Lancs and score heavily in first class cricket and show he can build an innings before he should be considered for the test side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grecian View Post
    I disagree with the people talking common-sense, put him in, it'll be fun.
    Ha. After a couple of overs of Rankin bowling in the final test I was left agreeing with you that maybe we should have played Tymal Mills. I would have bet on him doing better than Tremlett, Rankin and FInn did. Least Mills had some form.

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    Of course he has. The boy's clearly an exceptional talent. He plays straight and the funky shots come from the foundations of a solid technique.

    Yes, chaps like Taylor and Bairstow average more in FC cricket, but both have glaring flaws that are going to be exposed at the highest level. I'd have him in with or without the gloves.
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    Would be good for him to have at least one series averaging more than 40 though.
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    This English top three are cornflakes. They're not the most exciting thing out but they're pretty effective. Then the middle order are the sugar. Would be too much on their own but added to the cornflakes they add some much needed interest

    When KP returns he will be the banana..

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    Quote Originally Posted by theegyptian View Post
    Ha. After a couple of overs of Rankin bowling in the final test I was left agreeing with you that maybe we should have played Tymal Mills. I would have bet on him doing better than Tremlett, Rankin and FInn did. Least Mills had some form.
    Thing is they'll probably debut Mills in an ODI where he'll get slaughtered. When was the last pace bowler who made his England debut in Tests. Woakes was the most obvious person who should have skipped that, yet it's how we do things. Not sure it's wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grecian View Post
    Thing is they'll probably debut Mills in an ODI where he'll get slaughtered. When was the last pace bowler who made his England debut in Tests. Woakes was the most obvious person who should have skipped that, yet it's how we do things. Not sure it's wise.
    Steven Finn. As incredible as that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    Steven Finn. As incredible as that is.
    Amusing, as he's probably better with the white ball, ho-hum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theegyptian View Post
    Nah. Most of us who'd seen him play in one day cricket for Somerset knew he could be potentially a very good ODI player. He was simply outstanding and way above basically every one else in 40 over county cricket. He hasn't shown anywhere near the same aptitude in 4 day cricket. Looks dodgy vs medium- quick bowling just outside the offstump a bit like Bailey. His one days skills don't translate brilliantly to 4 day cricket- talented tho he is.
    There's a big difference between picking a batsman to bat 6 and a wicket keeper batsman to bat 7, IMO. Bailey's skills as a batsman would be fine if he were selected as a keeper, or maybe even an allrounder, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    There's a big difference between picking a batsman to bat 6 and a wicket keeper batsman to bat 7, IMO. Bailey's skills as a batsman would be fine if he were selected as a keeper, or maybe even an allrounder, IMO.
    I agree with the first part but given we've brought in Stokes and he looks likely for a long go at 6 or 7 we could really do with a solid conventional wk/batsmen. Given the rest of the top 5 looks a bit up in the air gambling on Buttler seems like one gamble too far. Not convinced about the second part.

    Buttler may well get there and he does have star talent but I'd be a lot more confident with him at 7 in our team two years ago when the top 6 looked solid than today.

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    Buttler is a Lancashire player now - England can gagf

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Probably better?

    Well at the start of his career he was better with the red ball, then white ball, now he can't get either on the cut-strip,so ho-hum.

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