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Thread: Who is really to blame for England's batting collapses post 2011 in test series?

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    Shut up and read this.

    Ed Cowan on facing Mitchell Johnson at the WACA | Opinion | Cricinfo Magazine | ESPN Cricinfo

    My plans at the WACA were simple. They had to be, against serious pace. I'd get on-side of the ball to negate the angle in, and not expect any swing away from my left-hander's stance. If it did swing, I felt I would adjust late. The plan was clear: get forward and look to push him down the ground, knowing square-of-the-wicket shots would come naturally as the innings progressed. I knew the best place to play was from the other end: clichéd, yes, but generally effective in resisting the new ball.
    Two things in this paragraph explain where the England bats went wrong in playing Johnson.
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    Blaming Ed Cowan is a bit harsh.
    "I am very happy and it will allow me to have lot more rice."

    Eoin Morgan on being given a rice cooker for being Man of the Match in a Dhaka Premier Division game.

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    If a bowler gets on top of England they let him destroy them both Ajmal and Johnson are prime examples. Sure there will be a bogey bowler for a whole batting unit but eventually one or two batsman will get on top of him as the series progresses and calms everyone down England keeps on piling it on themselves and eventually allows other bowlers to take advantage of this aswell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    Gotta be mental or team factors. I've seen absolutely nothing technically wrong with the English bats that haven't been there for many years.
    And there's the problem: mediocre batting for a long time, been able to get away with it facing mediocre attacks. The long-time technical flaws have been thoroughly examined by Dr Boof and Billy the Kid.

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    Collingwood going definitely to blame. We were fine in the summer of 2011, Morgan was able to be semi useful against India, but ever since then we've struggled to replace him and he was the man who dug us out of these holes.

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    Quality of bowling worldwide has improved.

    Aussies have re-emerged, Saffas always good, Kiwis have good new ball attack, Pakistani found more talent (Ajmal is a freak), a fullstrength WIndies pace attack is not too bad (unlike that seen in NZ) etc

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    the guy's trash bro
    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Blaming Ed Cowan is a bit harsh.
    worked for lehmann

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    Will say this once and then nothing else. Defamation laws quite clear in careful.

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