Fact is that Flower has been appallingly let down by a pretty experienced bunch of players. Nine innings completed, and not one of our guys has made 300 runs in the series is a shocking statistic that says everything about their lack of stomach for the game. No wonder he says he wants to stick around to wield the big knife and enjoy getting rid of them.
Anyone see him nearly get all chirpy and sarcastic earlier when answering questions, just in time he thought better of it, im just annoyed looking at him now.
Another thing which grates, why is it whenever he used to get asked about his future when England were winning he would be all coy and never give a direct answer, now after England have been utterly bummed senseless hes piping up that he definately wants to stay and is staying and will build a new team etc...
You wait in the summer against India, we will be batting for draws on day 2 again, the whole negative mindset and dour cricket wont ever change with him in charge.
Last edited by Cooky Monster; 06-01-2014 at 10:51 PM.
Athers and Nasser had some bad teams but this one was worse. 5 nil in the manner it was accepted should have the players and the coaches being questioned. Was Flower this negative as a player? I remember him being a decent bat but didnt see Zimbabwe that often.
Mike Selvey has wrote today that Flower staying on is contingent on KP being dropped. If that is the case then its Adios Andy for me. Done a lot of very good things for England cricket but we need a new direction, new style of play and KP needs to be a part of that.
Last edited by 91Jmay; 07-01-2014 at 09:30 AM.
If it's true, they don't need to be reviewing Flower's position, they need to be reviewing his sanity.
We lost badly 5-0, let's drop the guy who scored the most runs in our team and the guy who can still threaten the opposition.
Bad apples should be thrown out.
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Sadly it does have an air of verisimilitude.
Have history, don't they? Even leaving aside 2012, KP issued a similar ultimatum when he was skipper under Moores. He also wanted Flower (then the batting coach, if memory serves) out with the head coach.
There is no point dropping any of Cook, Bell or Pietersen because, as Trescothick said on the Ashes Verdict on Monday, they'd go back to CC and dominate to a stupid extent. They're better than the alternatives.
I am a Flower fan, but all coaches have shelf lives with teams and it could be he's reached his.
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