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    One overwhelming positive for England ....

    ... now that we've been so comprehensively murdered, we're free to reinvent ourselves as anything we want.

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    But that's the real issue, isn't it?

    If you are there to remodel, Pietersen is asked to leave. If you want to drag the best out of your current side then you have to play him.

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    I think, of the current top six, four (Cook, Bell, Stokes and KP himself) are mortal locks. We really don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, do we?

    The time invested in Root plus his youth means he's a better than 50% shout for Sri Lanka in the spring too, although maybe not at #3, which leaves one spot opening. I'd like to see Robson given a go (how's he going in grade this winter, btw?) but wouldn't object to Compton either.

    Spin looks a problem, Monty hardly stepping up and if he's not doing it with the ball his case becomes very hard to argue. It's not beyond the realms we could even see Tredwell as the first choice slow bowler come 2014.
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    Tredwell who didn't take a first class wicket until June or something stupid last year. Good god I hope not.


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    Tredwell looks like the right-arm finished version of Kerrigan.

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    Kerrigan definitely had the best credentials going on first class output, but it just didn't happen for him at The Oval, to put it very politely.

    Borthwick's batting well, but a tyro leggie against Sri Lanka and then India could be sheer murder for the boy.

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    How's Kerrigan gone with the performance squad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    How's Kerrigan gone with the performance squad?
    Stayed at home for a cry.

    Actually, he was told his services weren't required and would be working with Peter Such, which looks like the international sportsman's equivalent of lines.

    I must not bowl like a drain
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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    How's Kerrigan gone with the performance squad?
    He was in the squad originally but a decision was taken, after due consideration by all relevant parties, to keep home for the winter, where he has been putting in a lot of work in at Lancashire's in door facilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Stayed at home for a cry.

    Actually, he was told his services weren't required and would be working with Peter Such, which looks like the international sportsman's equivalent of lines.

    I must not bowl like a drain
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    Working with Peter Such! He's bound to come good with such illustrious coaching behind him.
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    Very underrated bowler, Such, tbf.

    We've had far, far worse. Quite possibly the best offie we've had in my watching career before Swann came along, although I didn't really see Embers in his cups. Was largely bowling on fumes by the time I can remember him.

    Maybe even the best slow bowler full stop, actually.

    Such always seemed to lose out because other options batted better.

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    TBF John Davison is the spin bowling coach for the Aussies (or at least for Lyon), and he averaged 45+ with the ball in FC.
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    Only a bunch of convicts having been beaten 3-0 and gone 9 tests without a win and won just 1 in 11 against England could go into the home series saying they will win. England will win in Australia again this winter as they are a better side which they have shown this summer. 3-0 doesn't lie girls.

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    As an Essex man, I'm 99.94% Heef wasn't being ironic in his praise of Suchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    As an Essex man, I'm 99.94% Heef wasn't being ironic in his praise of Suchy.
    I have a man crush on Peter Such and his camp little leaps in anticipation of a wicket. WAG.

    Plus, he was actually a really good attacking spin option, but couldn't bat for toffee and wasn't the greatest fielder either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    I have a man crush on Peter Such and his camp little leaps in anticipation of a wicket. WAG.

    Plus, he was actually a really good attacking spin option, but couldn't bat for toffee and wasn't the greatest fielder either.
    I used to laugh all the time at those skips in the air with hands raised every time he thought he had a chance of a wicket.

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