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    Quote Originally Posted by MW1304 View Post
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    It's a weird situation these days that home captains have basically taken home ground advantage out of the equation by routinely resting players - Australia does the exact same thing as England when we are at home.

    Im glad I went to sleep straight after they went off the field last night oh and I get my bet refunded, had bet money on a higher England first opening partnership (forgot Carbs was opening).

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    Perhaps more of a reflection of how meaningless bilateral ODI series' have become, although this is exceptional as it came not only after the CT but after the Ashes as well
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    I don't think it is completely useless. The scheduling of 5 ODIs in a 10 day period is fine and its giving Cricketers an opportunity on the International arena. Just the rain and England resting a few of there better players has made it a little less interesting for Aussie viewers who are probably more interested in Finals Footy at the moment.

    BTW, Why hasn't England decided to rest Trott? He is one player who I feel probably needed to get back to County Cricket. I notice Warwickshire play a County game the day after the final ODI, I think England management should make sure he is playing that match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximas View Post
    Perhaps more of a reflection of how meaningless bilateral ODI series' have become, although this is exceptional as it came not only after the CT but after the Ashes as well
    The cricket powers-that-be have the short-form of the game all wrong IMO.

    50 x 6 ball overs is too long and people find the middle overs just plain boring to watch. 20/20 is too short and often amounts to nothing more than hit and giggle.

    The ideal duration for an entertaining short-form game is probably either 30 or 35 overs, and scrap the 50/50 and 20/20 stuff.

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    I don’t mind the 50 over game, I mean I can endure test cricket so a few overs where the players stroke the ball around is OK by me. However, ODIs tacked onto test cricket makes it a poor second cousin. The world cup works well, because the sole focus is ODIs. Maybe a premiership league of nations with second division for lesser nations could be set up. I know this has been penciled in for tests, but I think it works much better for ODIs. Played over two years every team plays the other team home x 3 and away x3. Team at top after two years wins league of nations trophy. Better than the ranking system which doesn’t really give you anything. World cup is still good as it is a knock out comp, like the FA cup in football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiff View Post
    I donít mind the 50 over game, I mean I can endure test cricket so a few overs where the players stroke the ball around is OK by me. However, ODIs tacked onto test cricket makes it a poor second cousin. The world cup works well, because the sole focus is ODIs. Maybe a premiership league of nations with second division for lesser nations could be set up. I know this has been penciled in for tests, but I think it works much better for ODIs. Played over two years every team plays the other team home x 3 and away x3. Team at top after two years wins league of nations trophy. Better than the ranking system which doesnít really give you anything. World cup is still good as it is a knock out comp, like the FA cup in football.
    I don't see any good reason for two different versions of the short-form game. If the optimum length could be arrived at - and I think it's probably 35 overs a side - just play that only.

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    Yeah fair enough, I tend to forget that 2020 is a cricket match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiff View Post
    Yeah fair enough, I tend to forget that 2020 is a cricket match.
    It only meets some of the pre-requisites, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiff View Post
    I don’t mind the 50 over game, I mean I can endure test cricket so a few overs where the players stroke the ball around is OK by me. However, ODIs tacked onto test cricket makes it a poor second cousin. The world cup works well, because the sole focus is ODIs. Maybe a premiership league of nations with second division for lesser nations could be set up. I know this has been penciled in for tests, but I think it works much better for ODIs. Played over two years every team plays the other team home x 3 and away x3. Team at top after two years wins league of nations trophy. Better than the ranking system which doesn’t really give you anything. World cup is still good as it is a knock out comp, like the FA cup in football.
    This sounds mighty close to the Champions Trophy in concept, even if the format is different
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    It's a weird situation these days that home captains have basically taken home ground advantage out of the equation by routinely resting players - Australia does the exact same thing as England when we are at home.

    Im glad I went to sleep straight after they went off the field last night oh and I get my bet refunded, had bet money on a higher England first opening partnership (forgot Carbs was opening).
    Was completely sawn off by Pietersen, tbf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    This sounds mighty close to the Champions Trophy in concept, even if the format is different
    I know, everyone would want to ditch the Champions Trophy.

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    Probably for the best. The less the world sees Birmingham on its TV screens, the better.

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