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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
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    Enjoy your debut Faulkner experience.
    Yeah ok; I said you got me.

    As for the selectors being sick of Cowan, Usman and Hughes...well that will last until the replacements fall short. Then its what abt Cowan, Hughes and Usman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Really don't get the relevance of Watson and Starc in this?
    As soon as the announcement was made I was annoyed that it appeared as though we are weakening the batting but I honestly don't think it has been weakened as Starc is better than Bird clearly and Khawaja was down on form so Faulkner just needs to the job that Watson did last Test and its clear that this lineup is better batting wise.

    I think the key message out of Faulkner's selection is that the selection panel are not happy with Cowan, Hughes, Khawaja and perhaps Wade so think none of them deserve to play in Test match cricket until they have improved. Faulkner hasn't had the chance yet, he has been improving throughout his career, has performed quite strongly for Australia in International matches, has scored 82 runs and been dismissed just the once on tour and with the series already decided they want to give him a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    As soon as the announcement was made I was annoyed that it appeared as though we are weakening the batting but I honestly don't think it has been weakened as Starc is better than Bird clearly and Khawaja was down on form so Faulkner just needs to the job that Watson did last Test and its clear that this lineup is better batting wise.

    I think the key message out of Faulkner's selection is that the selection panel are not happy with Cowan, Hughes, Khawaja and perhaps Wade so think none of them deserve to play in Test match cricket until they have improved. Faulkner hasn't had the chance yet, he has been improving throughout his career, has performed quite strongly for Australia in International matches, has scored 82 runs and been dismissed just the once on tour and with the series already decided they want to give him a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    As soon as the announcement was made I was annoyed that it appeared as though we are weakening the batting but I honestly don't think it has been weakened as Starc is better than Bird clearly and Khawaja was down on form so Faulkner just needs to the job that Watson did last Test and its clear that this lineup is better batting wise.

    I think the key message out of Faulkner's selection is that the selection panel are not happy with Cowan, Hughes, Khawaja and perhaps Wade so think none of them deserve to play in Test match cricket until they have improved. Faulkner hasn't had the chance yet, he has been improving throughout his career, has performed quite strongly for Australia in International matches, has scored 82 runs and been dismissed just the once on tour and with the series already decided they want to give him a chance.
    Who's more likely to make a meaningful contribution? Faulkner or Hughes? They may (although I dispute it but its reasonable suggest) both be as likely to fail, but Hughes is far more likely to make a meaningful contribution to Faulkner. So is Khawaja (a fifty in this series) and god help me, Wade.

    Using a test match to see how players go is not how test cricket should be played. Why are we in the business of handing out caps to blokes just to see where they're at? Pick a team to give you the best chance of winning a test.

    It's honestly the most disappointed I've been with an Australian selection since forever. Other times inferior players have been selected, but on this occasion not only has an inferior player been selected, he's been selected contrary to balance and the demands of the team.
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    Ashes 2013: Stuart Broad accused of blatant cheating by Darren Lehmann | Sport | theguardian.com

    Weirdly timed cry from Lehmann.

    Also if he is pro-walking, I'm not sure he is as in-tune with the 'baggy green culture' as has been made out

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    And make no mistake, I want Forkers to succeed as much as any bloke, I'd love for him to come out and make 200 and take five in each innings, but it would still be a poor selection policy despite this.

    I'm for Forkers being around the limited overs stuff, but this is just crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Ashes 2013: Stuart Broad accused of blatant cheating by Darren Lehmann | Sport | theguardian.com

    Weirdly timed cry from Lehmann.

    Also if he is pro-walking, I'm not sure he is as in-tune with the 'baggy green culture' as has been made out
    Disgraceful comments from Lehmann. Almost as bad as the Faulkner selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    And make no mistake, I want Forkers to succeed as much as any bloke, I'd love for him to come out and make 200 and take five in each innings, but it would still be a poor selection policy despite this.

    I'm for Forkers being around the limited overs stuff, but this is just crazy.
    Is he even suited to English conditions? I haven't seen a whole lot of him but he seems to be a hit the deck kind of bowler, can swing it though I spose

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    Yeah, not sure why Lehman is having a cry now, it's never cheating if the umps don't give you out

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    Completely agree with Benchy here, that last post hit the nail right on the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Ashes 2013: Stuart Broad accused of blatant cheating by Darren Lehmann | Sport | theguardian.com

    Weirdly timed cry from Lehmann.

    Also if he is pro-walking, I'm not sure he is as in-tune with the 'baggy green culture' as has been made out
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    The reason for the selection of Faulkner being crap is simple. He's neither the best batsman, nor the best bowler, available for the final spot in the side. Given there's already an all-rounder in the side, playing for team balance is irrelevant, so given the fact that there are better batting and better bowling options outside of the eleven, it's a crap selection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximas View Post
    Is he even suited to English conditions? I haven't seen a whole lot of him but he seems to be a hit the deck kind of bowler, can swing it though I spose
    Doesn't swing it at all. Left arm Clint McKay.



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