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    Umpire thread (not wambulance)

    Just realised that 8 of the 12 elite umpires are English or Australian, thus effectively leaving us with 4 umpires for the Ashes - Dharmasena, Dar, Erasmus and Tony Hill.

    In today's DRS world, do we really need neutral umpires?

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    You make a good point. I'm sure the quality of international umpiring has a lot to do with the reluctance of some very good umps to travel endlessly, with DRS in place the chances of glaring errors that are potentially influenced by bias or by maybe spot fixing happening are lessened a great deal.

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    Still keep neutral umpires. What is a controversial decision is made after all your reviews are used up? I think we could do without nationality based disputes arising in such circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    Still keep neutral umpires. What is a controversial decision is made after all your reviews are used up? I think we could do without nationality based disputes arising in such circumstances.
    Yeah good point.

    If anything the OP makes me think there's not enough nations repped in the panel
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    Bring back Bowden...
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    Keep neutral umpires, I'm not aware of any other major sports where at international level a team could be officiated by a person from their country?

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    Surely DRS makes non-neutral umpires even less necessary? At least without it you could argue that it's a tough job and maybe there isn't anyone from outside the competing nations that could do it as well. With DRS almost anyone could do it, so there's no need to stoke up a load of unnecessary controversy.
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    I wouldn't be opposed to England and Australia fielding one umpire apiece for Ashes matches, though I agree that it wouldn't be ideal (imagine the outcry if Ian Gould had been the one to give Broad not out for the Agar catch - what was a bad mistake for Dar could've been a career-ending one for an English umpire). The ICC needs to start investing in umpiring around the world, and focus on building a more diverse umpiring panel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
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    Bowden is the worst umpire on the circuit. Joke of a bloke. I wouldn't mind Aussies umpiring in the Tests, think the Umps are to professional to be effected by nationality but I agree with the point above that morons would probably jump on it if there was a controversial decision.

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    I mentioned it on another thread about the fact that we only have 4 umpires for the 10 tests and that worries me. Hopefully the TB test was a blip and they return to being good again but I am concerned that at the end of the 2 series we will be talking more about umpiring decisions than the cricket that was played.

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    Is there a reason why so many of the UMPS are currently England/Aus. I know we have just lost Rauf for obvious reasons but the deck is highly stacked ATM.

    As an Englishmen I'd never seen Gould officiate in a test before watching the SA/AU's series and was very impressed.

    Also what will they do if an UMP goes down injured/sick and we're down to three. I take it there is a secondary list of umps who do just odi's?

    And not a single Indian is shocking but is the BCCI preventing them due to DRS or are they just pants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegionOfBrad View Post
    Is there a reason why so many of the UMPS are currently England/Aus. I know we have just lost Rauf for obvious reasons but the deck is highly stacked ATM.

    As an Englishmen I'd never seen Gould officiate in a test before watching the SA/AU's series and was very impressed.

    Also what will they do if an UMP goes down injured/sick and we're down to three. I take it there is a secondary list of umps who do just odi's?

    And not a single Indian is shocking but is the BCCI preventing them due to DRS or are they just pants?
    They're **** judging by what we see in ODIs.

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    Maybe if there is a home umpire then the opposition gets an extra 4 referrals to combat any underlying bias. I.E if they bring in a Australian umpire then England get extra referrals on his decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    Maybe if there is a home umpire then the opposition gets an extra 4 referrals to combat any underlying bias. I.E if they bring in a Australian umpire then England get extra referrals on his decisions.
    Surely that's a ****ing joke??

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