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    Agar and Trott both out for me.

    Damien Martyn on Ch 5 just now seemed to say the super slo mo shows Trott edged it, but couldn't see it on the footage they've shown.

    Agar's was staggering tho; saw it live in the boozer at lunch and it became increasingly clear the more it was shown that the 3rd ump was gonna jib it.

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    I think it works fairly well with hawk-eye, even if they are consertive with the what counts as an umpires call. There is definetly an issue with hotspot though.

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    The stumping was a shocker too, just seen it again and it gets worse with each view. It's like the opposite of when Bell was given out in the CT final

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    The problem isn't the mechanics of DRS* or the technology - it is that some umpires obviously aren't properly trained in understanding the technology limitations and/or don't understand that their role is to complement, not to replace the on-field umpire.

    How long did Erasmus actually spend looking for the inside edge? Did he actually understand why it was that Dar didn't give him out?

    *I do however think there should be scope to tweak the regulations such that referrals aren't always lost in the case of unclear (if the technology is insufficient) or close (eg. umpires call) decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Agar and Trott both out for me.

    Damien Martyn on Ch 5 just now seemed to say the super slo mo shows Trott edged it, but couldn't see it on the footage they've shown.

    Agar's was staggering tho; saw it live in the boozer at lunch and it became increasingly clear the more it was shown that the 3rd ump was gonna jib it.

    149 runs later...
    Totally agree with you.

    The fact that after 2 days we are 15-2 after getting the wrong end of a shocker that cost 149 runs gives us hope going forward. When the rub of the green levels up we should win this match. I think 250 will be tough for Australia to chase down on day 4 which most of it would be.

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    Bob Willis and Tom Moody both think that both decisions were ****e

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    Something I'm sure we can all agree on is that Erasmus is a ****ing ****e umpire, on the pitch or in the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    Bob Willis and Tom Moody both think that both decisions were ****e
    They were, i don't know how anyone disagree with that opinion.

    The Agar one is most galling though, no way Oz come back from 130 all out, would of been game over, Trotts would never of happened if the right decision was made with Agar and even if England did get a bad one like that it wouldn't of be as crucial as Trotts ended up being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW1304 View Post
    Erasmus
    I want you to get this **** where he breathes! I want you to find this nancy-boy Marais Erasmus, I want him DEAD! I want his family DEAD! I want his house burned to the GROUND! I wanna go there in the middle of the night and I wanna PISS ON HIS ASHES!
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    That Agar stumping just gets worse every time I see it. How on earth you give that not out is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grecian View Post
    Still think it does change shockers, so it's worthwhile, anyone that thought it would take all controversy out of the game were clearly silly.

    Think they should have Third umpires that are specialist though, that know the system inside out, and keep on making those decisions. Get used to it, make for more consistency.

    It's just silly having the normal umps, it's a totally different working environment, and some are going to be better with technology than others.
    Yeah, agree completely.
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    This English top three are cornflakes. They're not the most exciting thing out but they're pretty effective. Then the middle order are the sugar. Would be too much on their own but added to the cornflakes they add some much needed interest

    When KP returns he will be the banana..

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    Sometimes people see what they want to see in replays and interpret a result they want.
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    I'm assuming that I'm not the only one hoping that Trott had Vaseline on his edges to help with hotspot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooky Monster View Post
    They were, i don't know how anyone disagree with that opinion.

    The Agar one is most galling though, no way Oz come back from 130 all out, would of been game over, Trotts would never of happened if the right decision was made with Agar and even if England did get a bad one like that it wouldn't of be as crucial as Trotts ended up being.
    Well if Finn hadn't insisted on bowling a consistent torrent of sewage for an hour it would probably be game over anyway.

    But I do think it was a terrible decision.
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    The Filth have comfortably the better bowling. But the Gash have the batting. Might be quite good to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    I'm assuming that I'm not the only one hoping that Trott had Vaseline on his edges to help with hotspot?
    this actually would be hilarious.

    The thing with the ball tracking is that it doesn't seem to be able to recognize sharp movement.

    I've seen examples where the ball hit one pad, then the next, and the tracker stopped at the second pad - which clearly screws up the trajectory of the delivery. They need to figure out a better way of stopping the tracking on impact.

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